Too Bad So Sad - Mysterious Airstrike Kills Iranian Commander Days After Nuclear Scientist Assassinated

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by shanv3

You could be a dual citizen and thats why lobby for them than you do for america.

Btw , irrelevant response to wat i wrote.i was replying to sholomar.

I am not a dual citizen. I am a citizen of the U.S. Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton were duel citizens.

[shanv3]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

I am not a dual citizen. I am a citizen of the U.S. Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton were duel citizens.

Yes. Likewise i m not a jew disliker or israel disliker.

Easy to accuse right?

My way of interpreting foreign affairs policy may not be the same way as you do. That doesnt mean i “dislike” a whole ethnicity

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by shanv3

My way of interpreting foreign affairs policy may not be the same way as you do. That doesnt mean i “dislike” a whole ethnicity

Yes, indeed. In addition to being hypocrites, many people seem unable to understand the distinction between Jews and Israelis.

Criticizing Israel does not rise to the level of condemnation of all Jews the world over any more than criticizing Austria amounts to a condemnation of all Germans the world over.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Mircea

Yes, indeed. In addition to being hypocrites, many people seem unable to understand the distinction between Jews and Israelis.

Criticizing Israel does not rise to the level of condemnation of all Jews the world over any more than criticizing Austria amounts to a condemnation of all Germans the world over.

It's a distinction a little too fine for my taste. It seems that people will go to the streets for "self-determination" for just about every people. The Jews are an exception. When they try to stand up for their rights, whether in Israel or elsewhere, they are assailed. Even, as I point out below, Jews have a tendency to question tactics that are needed for survival.

I recently read Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations by Ronen Bergman. He is not an uncritical supporter of Israel. Ronen Bergman, the author, appears to have questions about the need of enlightened, civilized countries to kill terrorists outside the theater of combat. I see nothing wrong with that. There is no moral grace in allowing "asymetical warfare" or terror to continue. If countries and peoples want peace, the default mode of modern, civilized countries is willfully grant it, sometimes even bending over backwards to do so. Witness the Abrahamic Accords between Israel and the UAE and Bahrain, the SALT I treaty, the "Iran Deal", known as the JCPOA and the Paris Peace Accords involving the Vietnam War in 1973. The West generally wants peace. It is the rare case that the West is goaded into devastating responses, such as outlined in the book above, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Dresden, Sherman's Civil War March to the Sea and similar responses.