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I'm not a Christian but your Jesus, Ocasio-Cortez and Reagan analogy is hopelessly flawed.
Have you ever read some of Ocasio-Cortez statements to the press and on social media? She is more like Mao, Pol Pot and Castro. Here is her best work yet "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future." Yeah, that is just what America needs members of Congress stating that the Democrats should create an enemies list to those that dared chose to oppose them. I've read the Gospels and I don't recall Jesus ever stating anything remotely like that. And the left dares call Trump a fascist when their "leadership" makes public statements like that.
If Biden-Harris want to unify the country one of their first steps should be is to have a sit down with Ocasio-Cortez and her band of merry pranksters and tell them to sit down and back off on their provocative statements. Or just come out as socialists or communists and stop masquerading as Democrats. Don't bring Trump into this because I don't support his inflammatory banter either.
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If you want everyone to live by the strict code of the Bible and not have church and state separated then how do you leave out the part about giving to the poor and if you have a hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
I haven’t come across the Bible verse yet where Jesus says to make sure you don’t kill people with taxes making over 400K maybe I just haven’t gotten to it yet?
Let’s face it Jesus was beyond a socialist in fact he made AOC seem like Reagan..
If you’re a fundamentalist then follow it all not just the parts of the Bible that suit you.
So are you talking about the Protestant bible, the Torah, the Catholic bible, Greek Orthodox, or Anglican? Old testament, new testament?
Do you know one person who could even follow every law and code of any of the above? If you do, you have met Jesus Christ.
Do you even know one person who could follow 10. The 10 commandments, supposedly the only law directly from the mouth of God? Six, seven and eight are doable for most people but the others we pretty much break everyday, at least once a week.
I dont think you understand the 99.
Mark 12:17 "Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him.
If you want everyone to live by the strict code of the Bible and not have church and state separated then how do you leave out the part about giving to the poor and if you have a hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
I haven’t come across the Bible verse yet where Jesus says to make sure you don’t kill people with taxes making over 400K maybe I just haven’t gotten to it yet?
Let’s face it Jesus was beyond a socialist in fact he made AOC seem like Reagan..
If you’re a fundamentalist then follow it all not just the parts of the Bible that suit you.
I think you put words and thoughts in others mouths.
Listen to Christians more, we are a diverse group.
-I want separation of church and state.
-I don't want "everyone to live by the strict code of the Bible."
-Jesus wasn't socialist, he never said you couldn't privately own your own store or business. In fact he said parables about people who worked harder getting ahead better.
If you want everyone to live by the strict code of the Bible and not have church and state separated then how do you leave out the part about giving to the poor and if you have a hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
I haven’t come across the Bible verse yet where Jesus says to make sure you don’t kill people with taxes making over 400K maybe I just haven’t gotten to it yet?
Let’s face it Jesus was beyond a socialist in fact he made AOC seem like Reagan..
If you’re a fundamentalist then follow it all not just the parts of the Bible that suit you.
I am quite charitable with my personal giving. But giving with someone else's earnings is neither charitable nor righteous.
This happened among the disciples after Jesus had been lifted to the heavens:
"And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. (Acts 2:44-45)"
and two chapters later (Acts 5) God struck dead Ananias and Sapphira who sold their land but kept part of the money for themselves. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...05&version=NIV God didn't go around killing everyone who did not share all their wealth, but in this case He did, because this couple were supposedly part of the brotherhood, and they lied about what they had done.
Socialism within the brethren? Pretty close.
However, Jesus was not a socialist. In Matthew 25:40-45 Jesus simply said to help others, which can be done by personal contributions, or though the community / government. He said when you give, give with a cheerful heart, and that is something many conservatives have a hard time doing since they call taxation "theft".
People forget what socialism is. It is government ownership of means of production.
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If you want everyone to live by the strict code of the Bible and not have church and state separated then how do you leave out the part about giving to the poor and if you have a hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
I haven’t come across the Bible verse yet where Jesus says to make sure you don’t kill people with taxes making over 400K maybe I just haven’t gotten to it yet?
Let’s face it Jesus was beyond a socialist in fact he made AOC seem like Reagan..
If you’re a fundamentalist then follow it all not just the parts of the Bible that suit you.
I'm not Christian, so I am learning something new here.
It seems like you are saying that Jesus would approve of armed men coming and threatening you with imprisonment if you didn't fork up your money?
He said when you give, give with a cheerful heart, and that is something many conservatives have a hard time doing since they call taxation "theft".
Taxes are compulsory therefore do not meet the Biblical definition of "cheerful giving" regardless of one's disposition when a portion of their earnings is withheld by the government, filtered through bureaucracy, and misdirected for personal use only to have a fraction of that which was "cheerfully" withheld arrive at it's intended purpose.
Taxes are compulsory therefore do not meet the Biblical definition of "cheerful giving" regardless of one's disposition when a portion of their earnings is withheld by the government, filtered through bureaucracy, and misdirected for personal use only to have a fraction of that which was "cheerfully" withheld arrive at it's intended purpose.
Liberals and progressives have a very hard time distinguishing between the concepts of parting with one's earnings via "charity" and parting with one's earnings via "theft."
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