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It's not a problem until they won't accept anything but white ID. I have a friend who is an enrolled tribal member in North Dakota. He has a BIA (federal) issued photo ID. He doesn't have a drivers license because he is too poor to drive. He was not allowed to vote because they would not recognize his ID.
That's voter suppression. If you are going to require photo ID, it's on you to provide the ID. Making people pay to get photo ID is just another poll tax.
From VoteND.gov
Acceptable Forms of Identification:
➣ Voting at the Polling Place – A Valid
North Dakota Driver’s license
North Dakota Nondriver’s identification card
Tribal government issued identification (including those issued by BIA for a tribe located in North Dakota, any other tribal agency or entity, or any other document that sets forth the tribal member’s name, date of birth, and current North Dakota residential address)
Long term care identification certificate (provided by North Dakota facility)
As stated in that article, the mechanics of our system work because we trust that it does. Or we did. We can debate the reasons, but the bottom line is that now, that trust is gone.
Without that trust, we need another way to feel confident that the elections are fair.
Well for starters, we don't need a election month, or election months.
Vote by mail should be done away with.
Electronic voting machines connected to the internet should be banned.
Poll observers must be allowed to actually observe the voting process from beginning to end. None of this crap where they are told to go home, or forced behind barriers, not allowed to view ballots in a way that satisfies their ability to verify the voting process, where observers are absent while 100,000 vote leads are evaporated in the dark of night and the democrat candidates magically win.
Absentee ballots should be obtained with positive voter verification and at least in the lower 48 they are mailed in no more than two weeks before the election, and received and counted by election day.
Everyone else votes in person on election day with a state or federal photo ID, and have their voter verification established.
Oh, and we need a solid chain of custody for all ballots. Those Dominion machines had zero chain of custody. You could load up a thumb drive with 200,000 fake ballots back in June, and on election day simply plug it into a voting machine and add them to the vote tally.
What we saw this year should never happen. Even banana republics don't run lawless elections like we just did.
Acceptable Forms of Identification:
➣ Voting at the Polling Place – A Valid
North Dakota Driver’s license
North Dakota Nondriver’s identification card
Tribal government issued identification (including those issued by BIA for a tribe located in North Dakota, any other tribal agency or entity, or any other document that sets forth the tribal member’s name, date of birth, and current North Dakota residential address)
Long term care identification certificate (provided by North Dakota facility)
true, Ibginnie. providing a voter ID to vote is not voter suppression. and like 'systemic racism', voter suppression is impossible to prove. voter suppression and systemic racism claims are asserted as a fact by the democrats ad nauseum with zero proof.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 12-03-2020 at 03:02 PM..
Reason: off topic
So this person has never voted before? How could something like this fall thru the cracks? How could this situation never have arisen before? It doesn't sound plausible.
Just vote by mail in a Democrat controlled state, they don't need to provide any voter verification, even signatures are not necessary.
This person had voted in every election since he turned 21. Suddenly the Republicans decided he needed photo ID, and the tribal photo ID was not good enough.
I vote by mail in a Democrat controlled state that no longer has polling places. You have to provide a birth certificate, passport, or baptismal certificate to register to vote. Once you are registered, they mail your ballot to your address of record. Ballots are not forwarded. It's a felony to submit someone else's ballot. Signatures are certainly required. Every envelope is bar coded, and your signature of record pops up on a screen. Any mismatch goes into a provisional pile and the voter gets a post card giving them a few days to contact the county clerk to fix it.
Mail-in ballots work fine. You have unlimited time to research the candidates and issues. It's so convenient that voter turnout always exceeds the percentage in polling place states.
It's more complicated than that. Many people show up at the ID offices and because their birth certificate and marriage license have a different spelling of the last name they are refused the ID. The person is 85 years old, has voted for 55 years but now because of new laws can't. So the govt. could allow clerks at the ID offices to allow these folks to get their ID blah blah....but they don't -- they are refused.
But wait, there's more!
In Texas, you also have to provide proof of Texas residency, which you can do with one of the following:
Texas Vehicle Registration or Title.
Deed or Mortgage.
Lease/Rental agreement.
Monthly Mortgage Statement or Mortgage payment booklet.
Automobile Payment booklet.
Selective service Card.
Medical or health card.
Utility bills (latest) - cannot be a cell phone bill
W-2 Form.
1099 Form.
Form DS2019.
Concealed Hand gun License.
License to Carry.
Paycheque.
Medical Card.
Health Card.
Automobile Payment booklet.
Let's say you are a retired older person who lives with your adult children, so you don't have a lease or a deed or a utility bill. You don't own a car or a gun, and you don't have health insurance and you're a woman so you didn't register for selective service, or your a man who can't find the card you were sent 50 years ago.
In Texas, you also have to provide proof of Texas residency, which you can do with one of the following:
Texas Vehicle Registration or Title.
Deed or Mortgage.
Lease/Rental agreement.
Monthly Mortgage Statement or Mortgage payment booklet.
Automobile Payment booklet.
Selective service Card.
Medical or health card.
Utility bills (latest) - cannot be a cell phone bill
W-2 Form.
1099 Form.
Form DS2019.
Concealed Hand gun License.
License to Carry.
Paycheque.
Medical Card.
Health Card.
Automobile Payment booklet.
Let's say you are a retired older person who lives with your adult children, so you don't have a lease or a deed or a utility bill. You don't own a car or a gun, and you don't have health insurance and you're a woman so you didn't register for selective service, or your a man who can't find the card you were sent 50 years ago.
How would you satisfy this requirement?
I guess the same way you bought booze, held a job, or did a myriad of other things that are common in the world.
Unless you think blacks folks are hapless dunces living in caves like hermits.
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