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Old 12-06-2020, 10:00 AM
 
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Make them take the Trump family? Donald already has the bank account and at least he pays taxes there. Ivanka has her patents and business interests. Seems like a good fit to me?
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:01 AM
 
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You can’t make China do anything.

At this point the US itself is more to blame for the deaths. Can thank all the idiots not being responsible during this time.
This is not hard to understand. The virus came from China and they lied about it for months. They alone put the world at risk. The virus either came from their lab or wet market. They own all the deaths around the world 100%. Without this virus most of those people are still alive. I agree some people are being irresponsible with it but this thing came from China and they own it.
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:03 AM
 
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Sure, not good. But then Trump spent most of the year lying about it, getting people to avoid quarantine, and trying to cover up his mismanagement. How is that any better?
This thread has nothing to do with Trump. Lol. It’s all on the Chinese. If we quarantine, jobs are wiped out and people lose their lives that way. The world is in a a no win situation, and the Chinese are to blame.
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Europe and the US should put a 10 year ban on permitting any Chinese citizen to enter. This would cause significant pain for the rich/powerful in China. They would think twice before doing this again.
US people, including the Kushner family, use US green cards to encourage investment in their projects. Not having access to this market would cause pain for many US businesses.
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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This is not hard to understand. The virus came from China and they lied about it for months. They alone put the world at risk. The virus either came from their lab or wet market. They own all the deaths around the world 100%. Without this virus most of those people are still alive. I agree some people are being irresponsible with it but this thing came from China and they own it.
So what?

Did the US compensate the world for the Spanish flu?
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The titles pretty much says it all. This virus from China that either came from a lab or one of their backwards wet markets has destroyed many lives and cost governments and taxpayers around the world trillions. In a way, they declared war on the world with their virus. With all the loved ones they killed prematurely, the risk they put us all in, they owe the world a great debt! What should the world demand of them going forward? Oversight of t heir labs? Stopping all wet markets? Forgiveness of debt and years of restitution payments? All of the above?
I don’t buy into the theory the spread of Covid by the Chinese Government was intentional. With 1.4 billion people, China will be the world’s largest consumer of stuff.

China was able to get the virus under control faster and better than the rest of the world because it put Wuhan and surrounding cities on a strict 3+ month lockdown. Unlike the US where people are inclined to describe the inability to grab a beer at a bar as a lockdown, China was serious. No one allowed to leave their residences without permission. All public and private transportation shut down. No flights or trains out.

Most outbound flights from China had been cancelled by the time Trump announced restrictions on travel from China. These restrictions did not include legal US residents, students or those visiting family members.

We all watched what was happening in Italy and other hot spots in Europe and collectively assumed it could not happen here. Millions of people flew from hot spots in Europe for months before the US restricted entry, with exceptions, of course.

Trump knowingly down played the seriousness of the virus from the start and rationalized his choice to do so as optimism as if that would magically make it go away. Had it not been an election year, Trump might have chosen a different strategy. We’ll never know. Nonetheless, Covid was politicized.

And it has and continues to spread.

As an aside, Trump’s favorite news outlet, OAN, did a special report on Covid where it was traced to a lab in North Carolina based on a report from a citizen investigator, aka, guy with social media account.
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:42 AM
 
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US people, including the Kushner family, use US green cards to encourage investment in their projects. Not having access to this market would cause pain for many US businesses.
I don’t care?
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Old 12-06-2020, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How long ago did trump stop anyone from China coming into the US?
Trump never stopped everyone coming from China from entering the US.

Legal US residents have been allowed to return.

Students were admitted.

Families visiting legal US residents have been allowed to do so.

About 500,000 did so between February- mid April.

Millions freely traveled to/ from hot spots in Europe before inbound arrivals were restricted which is not the same thing as eliminated.

Arrivals are expected to self -quarantine. No one monitors.

In the meantime, tens of millions of US people have chosen to dismiss the risk of Covid and ignored public health recommendations. And it spreads.

Back in August, Drs Birx and Fauci were given airtime to communicate the status of Covid. Both were clear, there was evidence of a renewed surge. Trump stood there and diminished the ipurgency.

Then Trump got sick and unlike the masses, was hospitalized out of an abundance of caution. His vitals and oxygen levels were monitored by an army of doctors. He recieved a treatment unavailable to the masses. And once discharged, he had the audacity to tell the public not to worry about Covid.

Trump did not create Covid or the global pandemic. His reaction in an election year made a tough situation worse.
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Old 12-06-2020, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When trump held dozens of super-spreader events and rallies in the US, I don't think we can blame the Chinese any longer for the critical COVID spread in the US.
Right ..if they hadn’t given up us covid then none of this mattered. And before Trumps ralleys we had blm, and antifa protests that terrorized, destroyed, burned, looted....so please they would be responsible for spreading it first.
So move along get back to where it starteD China!
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Old 12-06-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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When trump held dozens of super-spreader events and rallies in the US, I don't think we can blame the Chinese any longer for the critical COVID spread in the US.

Apparently all of the protests, rioting and hell raising in Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and other American cities had no influence on the increase of COVID 19 infections in those cities. Isn't that convenient for the American leftist agenda?
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