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Old 12-11-2020, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between chaos and confusion
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I wonder if we’ll get a vaccination card like my daughter got for school once we get the shot. Then people who show the card won’t have to wear masks when they go into businesses. Or employers may require the cards as a condition of employment.
I have been wondering this myself. The HAVE and the HAVENOTS ........ which makes me a little concerned since this is being handled at the state level, and the “rules” for vaccination may be different depending on which side of a line you live in. Saw this with testing already and not too impressed.
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:57 AM
 
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I really question if we know that yet. At this point, about 5% of the population of the US has had confirmed cases of Covid, with a death rate (based on confirmed infections) of about 1.88%. But...we're talking about vaccinating 15 times as many people, with a vaccine recently developed, in far less time than any vaccine in history, with minimal testing and no long-term studies of side effects. Given the number of people involved, serious side effects in even a low percentage of cases, can have a far bigger impact than Covid itself.
That is a good point.

Hopefully, we will get more data in the coming months that will alleviate many of these concerns.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:02 AM
 
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I really question if we know that yet. At this point, about 5% of the population of the US has had confirmed cases of Covid, with a death rate (based on confirmed infections) of about 1.88%. But...we're talking about vaccinating 15 times as many people, with a vaccine recently developed, in far less time than any vaccine in history, with minimal testing and no long-term studies of side effects. Given the number of people involved, serious side effects in even a low percentage of cases, can have a far bigger impact than Covid itself.
Exactly. . . . this is all political horsesheet, lucrative deals for those with stock portfolios.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Frankly I care more about our rights than I do about your parents. They don't make good hostages for this debate. You relish in making the lives of people who don't follow your orders difficult, well that sort of crap can come back to haunt you something fierce.

This sort of mandatory violation may be legal but it remains a violation of people's rights. The vaccine would remain available for those who want it even in the absence of such draconian mandates. It would even be available to those parents of yours who you wish to make others suffer for so you can save them from a disease that they would have a 95% chance of surviving even at their age. If they choose not to take it, it's not your place to promote the oppression of others in order to force their hand. If they don't care what you think why should the rest of us?
Your right to not wear a mask is infringing on my right to life when I wear a mask. Go write "My rights end where your begins" 50 times on the chalkboard.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:15 AM
 
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Your right to not wear a mask is infringing on my right to life when I wear a mask. Go write "My rights end where your begins" 50 times on the chalkboard.
Mask theater aside, you don't get to assume everyone you encounter has the virus

There are meds to help with that type of anxiety/paranoia.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:16 AM
 
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Your right to not wear a mask is infringing on my right to life when I wear a mask. Go write "My rights end where your begins" 50 times on the chalkboard.

Your rights don’t include mandatory vaccines for those who do not want them. It goes both ways.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Your right to not wear a mask is infringing on my right to life when I wear a mask. Go write "My rights end where your begins" 50 times on the chalkboard.
RE SPECT WALK
ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
NO WAY PUNK!
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:26 AM
 
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It's going to be tough. A lot of people are wary of this vaccine because of all the politics around covid. When government and their media apparatus tell people not to attend weddings, go to bars, church, walk on the beach yet give a pass to those "protesting," rioting and celebrating Biden*s "win," people are likely to be distrustful.
You forgot trumps COVID rallies.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Yes, this is widespread human experimentation and clear violation of the Nuremberg Code.
Everyone who participates in a trial has given informed consent, and so will those who take the vaccine. That is the very first precept of the Nuremberg Code. Have you actually ever read it?

https://www.imarcresearch.com/blog/b...20of%20society
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:59 AM
 
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Everyone who participates in a trial has given informed consent, and so will those who take the vaccine. That is the very first precept of the Nuremberg Code. Have you actually ever read it?

https://www.imarcresearch.com/blog/b...20of%20society
The trials were only two to three months. The experiment is ongoing. Post marketing surveillance.
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