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you need to stop pretending that pointing out the reality that Trump lost by millions of votes and an EC landslide using his own definition is in any way behaving as if anyone is anxious or has any doubt that Biden will be inaugurated on 1/20/2021
Your so-called analysis is the glaring error here
Don't be bothered by what I've written.
It's not actually in Trumpers' interests for Democrats to doubt the MSM narrative.
The optimal Trumpist scenario is for media gaslighting of the left to be as effective as possible, leaving no room for doubt. That way, conservatives fulfill their cherished ambitions of engineering a catastrophic failure in public trust of corporate media.
So if you want to help us, do your best to clutch to that narrative like a comfort blanket, even as it starts to unravel.
It's not actually in Trumpers' interests for Democrats to doubt the MSM narrative.
The optimal Trumpist scenario is for media gaslighting of the left to be as effective as possible, leaving no room for doubt. That way, conservatives fulfill their cherished ambitions of engineering a catastrophic failure in public trust of corporate media.
So if you want to help us, do your best to clutch to that narrative like a comfort blanket, even as it starts to unravel.
That's quite a "comfort blanket" you're spinning yourself there.
Simply saying that all of this is false won't be much use. You need to stop behaving in a way that suggests it's true.
You want to talk about behavioral traits? How about the obvious behavioral trait that Trumpers worship Trump and cannot let go of him. They were psychologically unprepared for Trump's loss, because they worshiped him and thought most others did as well, and thought he could do no wrong. But now that he has indeed lost, Trumpies went into shock and cannot handle it. All the complaining about fraud is nothing more than Trumpers compensating for their inability to let go of him. It is an addiction and they cannot fathom that their fix is going to end on 1/20/21. So they're saying anything and everything they can to try to convince themselves that Trump really didn't lose and that his loss can and will be reversed. When reality hits them on 1/20/21 they are going to be in shock.
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Not all of them. But enough of them for it to be noticeable.
There is obviously a margin of error if we're trying to read behavioral cues in others.
For example, some of the people here proclaiming 'zero evidence of fraud' may just be parroting the media narrative instead of thinking for themselves. ie. They're not exhibiting their own doubt, but transmitting the coping traits of the MSM mouthpieces they follow.
Maybe if you unplugged from the Ministry of Truth and cultivated that rare insolence to think as a free agent, you'll realize (with a bit of investigation) that some of these unlikely events could have been foreseen months in advance.
There was no fraud outside of the normal tiny number of people who vote twice or use a fake name. If there had been a Democratic "plot" to steal the election then Democrats would have walked away with a veto proof majority in the senate.
It's interesting that a student of psychology would try to imply that 80 million people are delusional or lying to themselves when what occurred was the polar opposite. Trump wanted to win so badly that if he couldn't do it legitimately he would win any way that he could. He has a "Jim Jones" like hold on his supporters and it appears that for some of them there is no limit to what they will do for him.
So fearing a loss he started trying to create doubt and mistrust of our elections months ago, opining about how early voting and absentee ballots will be faked and how voting machines are rigged. He was relentless;
and he really primed to pump so that it was really no surprise when immediately after the election Trump sends out his "Kraken" sock puppets to start filing lawsuits claiming fraud. Rudy Giuliani and crew were filing in one court after another only to get their cases dismissed (58 out of 59 at last count) That was Act 2 of Trump's plan, a 'fulfilment' of his prophecy of election fraud. The problem is that no one except hardcore Trump supporters were buying it, not the Judges and not even Trump's hand picked justices in the Supreme Court.
But like all things that Trump does, there was something in it for him, he got his supporters to send in almost 200 million dollars to stop all this fraud and then diverted most of that money to himself https://www.khou.com/article/news/ve...f-2fac647ea53d
You want to talk about behavioral traits? How about the obvious behavioral trait that Trumpers worship Trump and cannot let go of him. They were psychologically unprepared for Trump's loss, because they worshiped him and thought most others did as well, and thought he could do no wrong. But now that he has indeed lost, Trumpies went into shock and cannot handle it. All the complaining about fraud is nothing more than Trumpers compensating for their inability to let go of him. It is an addiction and they cannot fathom that their fix is going to end on 1/20/21. So they're saying anything and everything they can to try to convince themselves that Trump really didn't lose and that his loss can and will be reversed. When reality hits them on 1/20/21 they are going to be in shock.
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There was no fraud outside of the normal tiny number of people who vote twice or use a fake name. If there had been a Democratic "plot" to steal the election then Democrats would have walked away with a veto proof majority in the senate.
It's interesting that a student of psychology would try to imply that 80 million people are delusional or lying to themselves when what occurred was the polar opposite. Trump wanted to win so badly that if he couldn't do it legitimately he would win any way that he could. He has a "Jim Jones" like hold on his supporters and it appears that for some of them there is no limit to what they will do for him.
So fearing a loss he started trying to create doubt and mistrust of our elections months ago, opining about how early voting and absentee ballots will be faked and how voting machines are rigged. He was relentless;
and he really primed to pump so that it was really no surprise when immediately after the election Trump sends out his "Kraken" sock puppets to start filing lawsuits claiming fraud. Rudy Giuliani and crew were filing in one court after another only to get their cases dismissed (58 out of 59 at last count) That was Act 2 of Trump's plan, a 'fulfilment' of his prophecy of election fraud. The problem is that no one except hardcore Trump supporters were buying it, not the Judges and not even Trump's hand picked justices in the Supreme Court.
But like all things that Trump does, there was something in it for him, he got his supporters to send in almost 200 million dollars to stop all this fraud and then diverted most of that money to himself https://www.khou.com/article/news/ve...f-2fac647ea53d
Good. So the only thing missing from the above is a reason for me to persuade you otherwise.
Didn't we just establish, it will work to Trump's favor for as many on the left to board the airship MSM Hindenburg?
I am not a democrat nor a republican but here is my take. Sure the court cases have been easy. Trump has put up one frivolous lawsuit after another. All including the SCOTUS cases had little chance of succeeding. Really zero chance unless a judge put helping Trump ahead of the constitution. But Trump and many of his voters do not seem to keep this within legal or constitutional constraints. There are people on here saying they would support Trump using the military to stay in power and they want Biden and Harris arrested. As a Libertarian this sort of unhinged talk concerns me. Its a break down of law and order and our constitution. Things Trump made a big deal running for POTUS as a big supporter yet he tosses them aside if he thinks it gives him an advantage. Any many of his supporters will be believe anything Trump or his minions Powell and Giuliani say. Even youtube videos that say the craziest unproven nonsense get instant credibility to Trump voters no matter what they say.
Its like if you are a landlord. You have a tenant for 4 years who you in retrospect never should have rented your place to. They stop paying rent and make all sorts of threats to you. You do everything legal by filing for eviction, etc. All very easy. But you still need to get them out with the least harm to your property and you. That is what many want here. They want Trump gone with the least harm to our country. So until Trump is out the door like the tenant scenario. Its not the time to relax.
For example, some of the people here proclaiming 'zero evidence of fraud' may just be parroting the media narrative instead of thinking for themselves. ie. They're not exhibiting their own doubt, but transmitting the coping traits of the MSM mouthpieces they follow.
That's rich. Perhaps in all this psychobabble you could consider the word "irony".
There are irregularities and discarded votes in every election. But where is the evidence of fraud so widespread that it would change the results of the election?
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