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Old 12-19-2020, 03:16 AM
 
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Lost Cause redux.
For catastrophic exposition of media malfeasance? It's most definitely a long shot.

I'm not worried about Trump, but it does cause me trepidation whether we'll miss this opportunity to shipwreck the MSM.

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But where is the evidence of fraud so widespread that it would change the results of the election?
We do have a dedicated thread for election irregularities.

If you think you can do a better job than the last person I spoke to on the topic, please feel free. That bar isn't very high.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Remember, we're talking behavioral traits.

Simply saying that all of this is false won't be much use. You need to stop behaving in a way that suggests it's true.
hanks for the superfluous advice.
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:40 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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hanks for the superfluous advice.
Seems to be some folks' stock in trade, doesn't it?
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Old 12-19-2020, 06:44 AM
 
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For catastrophic exposition of media malfeasance? It's most definitely a long shot.

I'm not worried about Trump, but it does cause me trepidation whether we'll miss this opportunity to shipwreck the MSM.

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The reason I stated it's 'Lost Cause' redux is because the current scenario seeks to revive the denialism as did the earlier:

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In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

So too, the current scenario is dependent upon pseudo-history by its distortion or misrepresentation of the historical record, just as the earlier 'Lost Cause' pseudo-history.

So too, the current scenario is dependent upon cryptohistory based upon or derived from superstitions & mythologies, just as the earlier 'Lost Cause' cultism.
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Old 12-19-2020, 06:53 AM
 
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Trump would have attempted the same bs if he lost in 2016.

[@youtube]XRJ8TLCZdnI[@/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJ8TLCZdnI
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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Just shows that Trump did not know what the Federalist Society supports.
And neither do most of Trump's supporters.

~ So tired of winning ...
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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You should ask for a refund from whatever university gave you your psychology degree. It's broken.
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hanks for the superfluous advice.
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Seems to be some folks' stock in trade, doesn't it?

I think that's about as much meaningful discussion we'll squeeze out of this topic. I enjoyed the talk anyway.

Now that we've retreated to the usual drive-by arguments, TDS screeds, non sequiturs and superfluous remarks (accusing others of superfluous remarks), it's worth pointing out that I don't consider psychology a proper academic discipline.

There are some aspects of it that are sound, particularly in the areas of overlap with psychiatry and clinical psychology.

The rest of it is fraught with inductons that lack the rigor to qualify it as a proper science. Some of it is metaphysics, which is not a bad thing in and of itself, except for the fact that it is bad metaphysics predicated on obsolete principles.

But it does sometimes yield practical benefits that are as fruitful as any established STEM field. For example:

1. It helps you to explain why some people are more prone to narrative shaping or social engineering.
2. It allows you to recognize those who lack the abstract thinking skills to infer fraud from a parade of red flags.
3. It provides the framework for a predictive roadmap when faced with short-sighted opponents in politics or dialectic.

It's fine as a means to an end provided one understands its limitations (which requires knowledge theory).
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:50 AM
 
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The reason I stated it's 'Lost Cause' redux is because the current scenario seeks to revive the denialism as did the earlier:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

So too, the current scenario is dependent upon pseudo-history by its distortion or misrepresentation of the historical record, just as the earlier 'Lost Cause' pseudo-history.

So too, the current scenario is dependent upon cryptohistory based upon or derived from superstitions & mythologies, just as the earlier 'Lost Cause' cultism.
This just seems to be a verbose way of declaring Trump supporters deluded.

So you've not really answered the question. Are we talking about the probability of engineering a final implosion in MSM credibility?

If so, then I agree. It will be very difficult to pull off, the issues being timing and the efficacy of media/big tech gaslighting.
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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This just seems to be a verbose way of declaring Trump supporters deluded.

So you've not really answered the question. Are we talking about the probability of engineering a final implosion in MSM credibility?

If so, then I agree. It will be very difficult to pull off, the issues being timing and the efficacy of media/big tech gaslighting.
Verbocity would seem to apply to another member's posts. Just saying.
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Old 12-19-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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Verbocity [sic] would seem to apply to another member's posts. Just saying.
Verbosity means using more words than necessary.

So what is the informative content of that member's posts, and could it have been expressed in fewer words?

For example, all the informative content in your post could have been expressed in the statement, "You're deluded". There are no supportive arguments or premises. It's just a simple declarative proposition extended out to more sentences than are needed.

I suspect you have the term confused with jargon.
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