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Old 12-12-2020, 04:09 PM
 
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According to countless media reports a majority on our Supreme Court has RULED that Texas lacked standing under Article III of the Constitution and that Texas did not provide a “judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.”

So, what is meant by “standing”?

When the Supreme Court considers to hear a case, the first question is, does the Plaintiff have a right to sue in the Supreme Court? This is what “standing” is about. It is not about the issue(s) in contention, but rather, is the Plaintiff entitled to be heard in the Supreme Court and have a resolution handed down by the Justices of the Supreme Court?

To establish standing in the United States Supreme Court certain requirements must be meet, e.g., does the S.C. have jurisdiction over the subject matter? In the instant case, and under Article III of the Constitution, our Supreme Court does in fact have “original jurisdiction” over “Controversies between two or more States”.


Standing also requires that the plaintiff(s) has suffered an actual injury; the injury is the result of the actions of the defendant; and the asserted injury can be resolved by court action.

In the immediate case the State of Texas alleges in its BILL OF COMPLAINT that the Defendant States have violated Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, of the United States Constitution, and the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process and equal protection clauses of the U.S. Constitution.

If the allegations are true as stated in the Complaint, Defendant States have allowed an overwhelming number of ineligible votes to be cast which canceled out the votes of lawful votes cast by the good people in the Plaintiff States, and in so doing, have disenfranchised their vote and engaged in a “depravation of rights under color of law” which is an actionable offense and injury.

Those States which have followed the Constitution in the appointment of presidential electors ought not to suffer from alleged unlawful conduct of States which may have violated the federal Constitution in their appointment of presidential electors.

In fact, the people of the Defendant States must be held accountable for the actions of those they have willingly elected to state offices of public trust, and, who in turn, may have violated federal requirements for elections, and in so doing, cancelled out the lawful votes of citizens in the Plaintive States who have abided by the rule of law.

Unlike countries such as Venezuela where the “rule of law” is meaningless, and those in power arbitrarily dictate the “rule of law”, our Country is built upon “the rule of law” and “consent of the governed”, and this distinguishes our country from dictatorships like Venezuela, Cuba, China, etc.

Let us not forget that the voters of the Defendant States, and particularly so with respect to Pennsylvania, if the Plaintiff’s accusations are correct, were willing accomplices when they participated, in overwhelming numbers, and cast illegal ballots which violate one or more of the federal requirements for federal elections (i.e., equal protection, due process, and our Constitution’s Electors Clause) and thus, is it not self-evident that their votes, if illegal, must not be allowed to cancel out the lawful votes of the people in States which adhered to federal requirements and the rule of law for federal elections?

To this degree, that if the Plaintiff’s accusations are correct and provable ___ which would make countless voters in Defendant States willing accomplices with their elected officials in a depravation of rights under color of law ___ the Supreme Court ought to give a hearing to the allegations of Plaintiff States, and if such allegations are proven to be true, an obvious remedy would be to disallow the tabulation of election results of Defendant States as applied to the 2020 federal election.

For our Supreme Court to not do so, or provide an alternative remedy, is to embrace a depravation of rights under color of law and the tactics used in Cuban style elections, and ignore our fundamental founding principles . . . the rule of law and consent of the governed!

JWK

" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:24 PM
 
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You should be thankful the Supreme Court didn't take this case up.

Do you have any idea what kind of precedent this could have set up if SCOTUS even took up this lawsuit?!

Hint: it would allow CA to sue states like AL or GA to overturn their own laws and legislatures.

For example, GA and AL adopts stringent abortion laws and because of this, residents in those two states go to neighboring states with less restrictive abortion laws to get their abortion.

Those less restrictive states could in essence (assuming the TX lawsuit was taken up) sure those other states and demand they reverse their abortion laws, as they could claim their health resources are being negatively impacted by GA's and AL's restrictive abortion laws.

Sorry, but conservatives, who love to your state rights, should celebrate this lawsuit wasn't taken up.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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Its clear SCOTUS is the less than Supreme Court now !!!
More like a welfare court !!! As long as they get paid they see no need to do their job !!!
They gave the citizens and the constitution the bum rush !!!
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:47 PM
 
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Its clear SCOTUS is the less than Supreme Court now !!!
More like a welfare court !!! As long as they get paid they see no need to do their job !!!
They gave the citizens and the constitution the bum rush !!!
Of course they are because they didn't let Trump win.

And clearly Trump's ability to choose Supreme Court nominees that support your ideology doesn't exist.

Trump failed.....again.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:48 PM
 
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Good grief John, you’ve laid a massive turd of spurious reasoning here in your usual overly verbose form.

The simple fact of the situation is far more basic, Trump’s damaged psyche isn’t man enough to acknowledge the loss.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:02 PM
 
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Our so-called "supreme court" is nothing but a group of leftist ANTIFA thugs.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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Good for the SC. Atleast they still have a spine.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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You should be thankful the Supreme Court didn't take this case up.

Do you have any idea what kind of precedent this could have set up if SCOTUS even took up this lawsuit?!

Hint: it would allow CA to sue states like AL or GA to overturn their own laws and legislatures.

For example, GA and AL adopts stringent abortion laws and because of this, residents in those two states go to neighboring states with less restrictive abortion laws to get their abortion.

Those less restrictive states could in essence (assuming the TX lawsuit was taken up) sure those other states and demand they reverse their abortion laws, as they could claim their health resources are being negatively impacted by GA's and AL's restrictive abortion laws.

Sorry, but conservatives, who love to your state rights, should celebrate this lawsuit wasn't taken up.

You seem to ignore what our Constitution states in crystal clear language.

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors


The Defendant States are alleged to have violated this provision by appointing electors in a manner not authorized by the State Legislature.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, in addition to Facebook, Twitter ETC., and countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:10 PM
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Its clear SCOTUS is the less than Supreme Court now !!!
More like a welfare court !!! As long as they get paid they see no need to do their job !!!
They gave the citizens and the constitution the bum rush !!!
Like Fearless Leader you can't keep whining because you didn't get your way. He stacked the court and now that it has come down to it they respected our rule of law and didn't allow politics to be an influence. To have gone along because he appointed them would negate any respect or authority they currently have.

We have 3 branches of government, with the Senate in lock-step with fearless leader we already have a blurring of the line between those 2 branches we don't need the same with the 3rd.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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No you are wrong. The Supreme Court FOLLOWED THE LAW.

You are just crying because you didn't get your way.


One state has the constitutional right to make it's own laws.

Furthermore you are for DENYING millions of American citizens their God given legal and constitutional right to vote and stripping them of their voices.

Go to Russia if you want an unelected autocratic strongman.
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