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Yes, Biden did win fair and square. He won by what--7 or 8 million or so votes? There was no fraud. Votes were counted and recounted and recounted again. Lawsuits were filed and thrown out of court. Good grief! How blind must a person be to believe that Biden didn't win fair and square?
Never mind. You don't have to answer my rhetorical question. You will never convince me of voter fraud in this election, and I will never convince you that Biden won fair and square. I do know, however, that Biden will take the office of President of the United States next month.
There was vote fraud. If you got out of the MSM echo chamber, you will find that there are videos to back up this assertion.
Recounts are worthless if the same bogus ballots are counted again when they should have been thrown out.
How blind must a person be to believe Biden won fair and square?
I am absolutely certain that you believe every word that you wrote. But realize that every single day, fewer and fewer are willing to embarrass themselves by repeating this nonsense.
I am completely sure that some will go their graves believing that Trump won the election. But there is a difference in believing something and having evidence and findings proving that their belief has merit.
The Trump campaign has filed nearly 40 lawsuits challenging the election results since November 3 and hasn't won a single case. At least 86 judges across the country, many appointed by Trump, from the state level all the way to the Supreme Court, have rejected these challenges.
So when someone posts a statement on an Internet forum that directly contradicts the rulings from almost 90 judges all over the country, including a Supreme Court 9-0 decision, why would anyone take them seriously?
People are free to say anything you want - but understand that at this point, those that believe that Trump won this election have ZERO credibility.
It's you who choose to believe nonsense.
You're not credible with your claims when you say Trump lost "nearly 40 lawsuits". It has been mentioned over and over again that most of those lawsuits weren't filed by the Trump team. Yet you and your ilk just double down on this nonsense.
Have you seen the videos showing blatant vote fraud happening? My guess is "no" because you refuse to get out of the MSM echo chamber.
Just admit it. You don't care about vote fraud because you voted for Biden and want to sweep it all under the rug. Instead you and your ilk prefer to remain willfully ignorant.
Going forward everybody, no matter what side they are on, should want reassurance that our elections are being done safely and securely. It's a shame that the left doesn't care about it at all.
To have a rational conversation you have to have two rational people to discuss the topic. Since these die hard Trump supporters are all but rational... your only spinning your wheel expecting them to see the light. They will follow whatever Trump says. They now consider SCOTUS part of the deep state. It's best not to engage them and let them believe whatever.
To have a rational conversation you have to have two rational people to discuss the topic. Since these die hard Trump supporters are all but rational... your only spinning your wheel expecting them to see the light. They will follow whatever Trump says. They now consider SCOTUS part of the deep state. It's best not to engage them and let them believe whatever.
You guys crack me up. The "left" has been toothless for 50 years, you have to go back to the days of Jerry Rubin and the Weathermen to even find what one could view as a radical Leftist.
The USA has moved steadily and relentlessly to the Right ever since Nixon's resignation. Sure, the populist windbags from Limbaugh all the way to Trump try to spin a paranoid web of fantasy and fairy tales to convince the simple minded that there is some grand socialist conspiracy.
No one that even has a cursory knowledge of 20th century history and political science buys into any of this Neo-fascist propaganda.
There was vote fraud. If you got out of the MSM echo chamber, you will find that there are videos to back up this assertion.
Recounts are worthless if the same bogus ballots are counted again when they should have been thrown out.
How blind must a person be to believe Biden won fair and square?
If you read all of the briefs from all of the cases and then all of the judgements you would find that there was either no assertion or proof of fraud. There are no better examples of source data then the actual court filings by competent and expensive lawyers who have an interest in proving fraud and then the written judgements or dismissals by judiciary.
A video which has been reviewed by the senior election Official and then later explained in great detail on why it does not show fraud is another example of primary sourced information.
Listening to conspiracy theory is not even a good Secondary source.
You're not credible with your claims when you say Trump lost "nearly 40 lawsuits". It has been mentioned over and over again that most of those lawsuits weren't filed by the Trump team. Yet you and your ilk just double down on this nonsense.
Have you seen the videos showing blatant vote fraud happening? My guess is "no" because you refuse to get out of the MSM echo chamber.
Just admit it. You don't care about vote fraud because you voted for Biden and want to sweep it all under the rug. Instead you and your ilk prefer to remain willfully ignorant.
Going forward everybody, no matter what side they are on, should want reassurance that our elections are being done safely and securely. It's a shame that the left doesn't care about it at all.
Read for yourself. Of course these might all be alternative facts, right?
To have a rational conversation you have to have two rational people to discuss the topic. Since these die hard Trump supporters are all but rational... your only spinning your wheel expecting them to see the light. They will follow whatever Trump says. They now consider SCOTUS part of the deep state. It's best not to engage them and let them believe whatever.
You've got it backwards. It's the die hard Biden supporters who are all but rational.
Why don't you want anyone looking into vote fraud? Are you okay going forward knowing that our elections are not safe and secure? Or don't you care as long as your candidate wins?
When will the Trump supporters that deny the overwhelming victory of Joe Biden in the 2020 Presidential election finally come to their senses and accept this reality? Donald Trump and his allies have been playing you for fools with farfetched claims, lawsuits, and schemes. All of their efforts to overturn the election have little chance of success. Some five weeks after the election and they have still yet to uncover any CREDIBLE real evidence to support their widespread fraud claims. Had they done so, don't you think they would have presented it in court with judges giving it serious consideration? Trump is using this to issue consolidate more power over the party and fleece people out of money for his future PAC. His followers are continually being fed false hopes to keep this charade going. There is no chance at a different outcome. This election was decided many weeks ago. Buying into the garbage that Trump and his allies continue to push is only going to disappoint people over and over again. Take a hint from the other members of the Trump family - they are already shipping furniture and personal items to their next homes in Florida in anticipation of their January 20th move. They seem keenly aware of what the future holds.
"Election deniers"?
Now you are sounding like the silly AGW cult members, who squander billions of dollars on nothing while we have actual pollution problems that go untreated.
Trump will have a second term and Biden will never see the White House. There are still several suits, The Insurrection Act, and the MI forensic eval of the Dominion machines going public which showed a 1.3 vote tabulation for every Biden vote and .75 for Trump.
You've got it backwards. It's the die hard Biden supporters who are all but rational.
Why don't you want anyone looking into vote fraud? Are you okay going forward knowing that our elections are not safe and secure? Or don't you care as long as your candidate wins?
Take the good advice of other posters, and go back and read the court transcripts and briefs (they're easy to find, and I'm sure someone here would help you track them down and send you links if needed), and then maybe we can all have a rational, informative discussion here. Continuing to insist on a conspiracy of fraud, which close to 60 courts have dismissed (several did deal directly with whether there was fraud), and dismiss reports by bona fide news outlets that do a considerable amount of investigation themselves, does not advance the conversation. Even the Justice Dept. under AG William Barr, a Trump advocate, found no evidence of fraud--nothing that would have affected the outcome of the election.
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