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Old 12-18-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So a major adversary of ours just infiltrated our nation, stole tons of information and infected major systems with a sophisticated hacking campaign under our noses that affected top federal agencies, including the energy department (electric grid), the treasury and commerce departments (IRS - so info of all of us who pay taxes), and is even said to have targeted the agency responsible for the country’s nuclear weapons stockpile? What could go wrong?
The thread title is "Russian hackers..."

Russian hackers ≠ Russian government

That would be like you hacking into a German bank and then claiming the US government hacked the German bank.

You can see it's quite a stretch.

And, who gives a damn about the nuclear weapons stockpile?

Man, someone just has to whisper "nuclear" and you all crap your pants for absolutely no good reason.

For the record, how far do you think you can throw a 8.5 kg Plutonium-WG pit?

There are no nuclear weapons in the nuclear weapons stockpile. The stockpile consists solely of Pu-WG pits. That's "pit" and not "spherical implosion device" because a spherical implosion device has laminated PBX around the pit.

In theory, you would take the pit, glue laminated PBX lenses around it, stick your blasting caps in those, wire them up to a micro-controller, rob your wife's emerald jewelry to stick on it, add an electronics package and then add the PAL package on it, then stuff it all into an Aluminum casing and that's your nuclear weapon.

Then again, in a real nuclear war, there'd only be one nuke dumped on you and you all would be too busy killing each other for food and you wouldn't have the time to actually use the pits to make a nuclear weapon.
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Old 12-18-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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ah the Russians are always breaking into Government computers, as are the Chinese, Iranians, the Israeli and anybody else you can come up with including our best allies. They are all either doing it or trying to do it and we do the exact same thing. This is nothing new everybody spies on each other, what a great World we live in.
How exactly do you know it happens all the time?
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Russian Hackers Broke Into Federal Agencies

Those are Trump's friends.

Where is the outrage? ... oh yeah, nothing Putin does outrages Trump

There are reason why Trump doesnt confront Putin on this. Its been going on for the past 4 years.
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:01 PM
 
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NYT says it was Russian. Uh-huh. ZERO credibility.
Interesting. Why does it rankle you if it’s Russia?
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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So a major adversary of ours just infiltrated our nation, stole tons of information and infected major systems with a sophisticated hacking campaign under our noses that affected top federal agencies, including the energy department (electric grid), the treasury and commerce departments (IRS - so info of all of us who pay taxes), and is even said to have targeted the agency responsible for the country’s nuclear weapons stockpile? What could go wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ck-hack-russia
But the US does it too, so it’s not a big deal. At least, that’s what I’m hearing from an awful lot of posters.
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: In the bee-loud glade
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hahahaha Controlled by Putin. To many on the left are nothing more than mindless bots manipulated by government and their handouts. They'll say anything
So are you saying his lack of response is cowardice? Ineptitude? Those are plausible given that we're talking about the Trump, but I'd put my money on him selling out in some fashion.
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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No it doesn't, period. Trump may be disliked by many but one thing he isn't, he's not a traitor.
Unless you're married to him.
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:21 PM
 
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I would have thought Republican Majority Congress, President Trump, President Trump’s supporters and other Republicans that are true Patriots to our country who value their personal (and everyone else’s) privacy, safety, that they have running water and electricity and that our nukes are safe and secure should be up in arms over this. The scope of this goes beyond spy vs spy, government versus government that we are also guilty of at times.

Where is the outrage from President Trump and Republicans and calls for retaliation because this infiltrated / targeted not just our government but also civilian and critical infrastructure such as our electric grid as well? Will the outrage from the Republicans and President Trump be on par with the level of outrage when recent bounties were put on our troops by Russia?

Trump and companies silence on this is deafening.

By the way, this is not a foregone thing. This is an ongoing situation in which a foreign adversary has now infiltrated and infected major US systems. An infection in which the full scope is not yet known and that “removing this threat actor from compromised environments will be highly complex and challenging for organizations”.

It is not just bad, it reeks of incompetence at best or complicity at worse from the top level leadership on down. Who is running this country? Who is in ultimately in charge of protecting our nation? Who is in charge of our military and is current Commander in Chief? Who is this person at the helm that is in charge of appointing others to take care of us Americans so that the "swamp" is drained and replaced with people with competence and loyalty to country (not to a person) and stuff like this is mitigated?
And trump golfing.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:18 PM
 
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There are reasons why Trump doesnt confront Putin on this. Its been going on for the past 4 years.
Exactly.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The lack of response by Trump is very strange considering many in the intelligence community and even the GOP have been condemning Russia.
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