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Old 12-15-2020, 05:47 AM
 
Location: NC
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So you’re saying the vast majority of the 73 million people who voted for Trump and were appalled by the fraud perpetrated by liberals are un-American. You are also saying that 1/3 of independents are un-American. In fact, you are saying that 10% of Biden voters are in-American.

What you are saying is that anyone who thinks there was fraud in play in getting Biden over the finish line, and is appalled by it, is un-American. IOW, anyone who disagrees with you is un-American.

I think that attitude is disgusting - and un-American.
The only thing I'm saying about 73 million Americans (one of whom is my wife) is that they are misinformed, they may be gullible, and are wrong. Nothing more. To a person, some may choose to be that way, but I don't know 73 million people.

What I WAS saying is that it's fact that Trump was spreading lies. My comments are about him, and anyone who proactively helped him. If that's you, then I guess I was speaking of you. If you were duped and really beleive that all of these people who were Trump supporters and in his good grace until they spoke against him, and then suddenly became liars and traitors, if you fell for that, then I guess I feel sorry for you. I don't really have the right words for it. But for Trump, and people like Guiliani and some of the posters on here, yeah, I guess at this point I call them un-American. Certainly not 73 million, but a small, but extremely vocal bunch.

As for you specifically, I don't really know you. You sometimes have some great posts, often you post things I just don't agee with. I don't spend much time thinking about you, or 72.999 million others. Just collectively, some are gullible, and a few are actively trying to undermine America. That's MY opinion, and I stand by it.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:47 AM
 
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You know nothing. Not only is Trump donating his salary back to the taxpayers, Ivanka and Jared on not in the payroll either. They draw no salary.

Compare that to Biden’s good-for-nothing drug-addled son, who was ****ing his dead brother’s wife before the body was cold (if not before), enjoys kiddie porn, and is selling out his father for millions! And from the Communists!
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Trump corporation, Kushner's family business and Ivanka's Chinese patents are all doing very well under Trump's administration -- lol.

And to date -- there is no confirmation from any investigation of the claims you make against Biden. When that happens -- feel free to talk about it -- but for now it is conspiracy theory level baloney.
OMG. The degree to which you makes excuses and deny the horrific Biden Family corruption, and are willing to overlook the lowlife Hunter Biden’s activities, while simultaneously condemning Trump’s kids, who don’t even take salaries, tells me you are too delusional with Trump hate to reason.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:50 AM
 
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The only thing I'm saying about 73 million Americans (one of whom is my wife) is that they are misinformed, they may be gullible, and are wrong. Nothing more. To a person, some may choose to be that way, but I don't know 73 million people.

What I WAS saying is that it's fact that Trump was spreading lies. My comments are about him, and anyone who proactively helped him. If that's you, then I guess I was speaking of you. If you were duped and really beleive that all of these people who were Trump supporters and in his good grace until they spoke against him, and then suddenly became liars and traitors, if you fell for that, then I guess I feel sorry for you. I don't really have the right words for it. But for Trump, and people like Guiliani and some of the posters on here, yeah, I guess at this point I call them un-American. Certainly not 73 million, but a small, but extremely vocal bunch.

As for you specifically, I don't really know you. You sometimes have some great posts, often you post things I just don't agee with. I don't spend much time thinking about you, or 72.999 million others. Just collectively, some are gullible, and a few are actively trying to undermine America. That's MY opinion, and I stand by it.
Yes that’s your opinion and that doesn’t make it true...
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:51 AM
 
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???? Trump did nothing to facilitate this first batch of vaccine. you know that right? You know that Pfizer took zero money from Trump. Zero advice. That the USA was not the first country to approve or use this vaccine.....


How do you seem him being at the 'helm' of this vaccine development?

Every freaking country in the world is on 'warp speed' -- lol....ugh.....I can't imagine being so blinded by loyalty.
Trump actually deserves SOME credit for this. Yes, Pfizer refused the WarpSpeed monies, but they benefit from subsidies to distribute the vaccine, and Trump pushed hard to make it happen. He gets some credit. Not all of it, but certainly a significant "some".

We rushed it, and it may backfire. If it does backfire, I'll remember that I thought it was "more good than bad" of an idea. (I'll also remember that I knew there was a downside, but overall I support it now, and any 20-20 hindsight will be just that, hindsight).

And you know I am very tight with my Trump-praise, but in this case he earned some.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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OMG. The degree to which you makes excuses and deny the horrific Biden Family corruption, and are willing to overlook the lowlife Hunter Biden’s activities, while simultaneously condemning Trump’s kids, who don’t even take salaries, tells me you are too delusion with Trump hate,
No excuses. Hunter Biden is being investigated but we have no confirmation of what he is guilty of. When that happens then we can debate that issue.

And I brought up the claims of Trumps family profiting from the Presidency as an example of how if you are going to make claims based on stories --- there are stories against them too.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:53 AM
 
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OMG. The degree to which you makes excuses and deny the horrific Biden Family corruption, and are willing to overlook the lowlife Hunter Biden’s activities, while simultaneously condemning Trump’s kids, who don’t even take salaries, tells me you are too delusional with Trump hate to reason.
It’s crazy isn’t it? Hunter Biden’s activities are tied to Joe Biden. What the hell have they promised to China? How can any sane person not ask that?
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:55 AM
 
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Trump actually deserves SOME credit for this. Yes, Pfizer refused the WarpSpeed monies, but they benefit from subsidies to distribute the vaccine, and Trump pushed hard to make it happen. He gets some credit. Not all of it, but certainly a significant "some".

We rushed it, and it may backfire. If it does backfire, I'll remember that I thought it was "more good than bad" of an idea. (I'll also remember that I knew there was a downside, but overall I support it now, and any 20-20 hindsight will be just that, hindsight).

And you know I am very tight with my Trump-praise, but in this case he earned some.

It wasn't 'his' idea.

The whole word expedited the development and distribution of the vaccine. It didn't happen because of him...it happened in spite of him -- lol..and all the other world leaders.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:56 AM
 
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The only thing I'm saying about 73 million Americans (one of whom is my wife) is that they are misinformed, they may be gullible, and are wrong. Nothing more. To a person, some may choose to be that way, but I don't know 73 million people.

What I WAS saying is that it's fact that Trump was spreading lies. My comments are about him, and anyone who proactively helped him. If that's you, then I guess I was speaking of you. If you were duped and really beleive that all of these people who were Trump supporters and in his good grace until they spoke against him, and then suddenly became liars and traitors, if you fell for that, then I guess I feel sorry for you. I don't really have the right words for it. But for Trump, and people like Guiliani and some of the posters on here, yeah, I guess at this point I call them un-American. Certainly not 73 million, but a small, but extremely vocal bunch.

As for you specifically, I don't really know you. You sometimes have some great posts, often you post things I just don't agee with. I don't spend much time thinking about you, or 72.999 million others. Just collectively, some are gullible, and a few are actively trying to undermine America. That's MY opinion, and I stand by it.
Listen to your wife.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:57 AM
 
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No excuses. Hunter Biden is being investigated but we have no confirmation of what he is guilty of. When that happens then we can debate that issue.

And I brought up the claims of Trumps family profiting from the Presidency as an example of how if you are going to make claims based on stories --- there are stories against them too.
Mmmm no we can debate it now. We debated the Russian probe for over 4 years with no actual proof and now you want to shut down any talk on the Biden family. Do you not see how hypocritical that sounds???
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:58 AM
 
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The only thing I'm saying about 73 million Americans (one of whom is my wife) is that they are misinformed, they may be gullible, and are wrong. Nothing more. To a person, some may choose to be that way, but I don't know 73 million people.

What I WAS saying is that it's fact that Trump was spreading lies. My comments are about him, and anyone who proactively helped him. If that's you, then I guess I was speaking of you. If you were duped and really beleive that all of these people who were Trump supporters and in his good grace until they spoke against him, and then suddenly became liars and traitors, if you fell for that, then I guess I feel sorry for you. I don't really have the right words for it. But for Trump, and people like Guiliani and some of the posters on here, yeah, I guess at this point I call them un-American. Certainly not 73 million, but a small, but extremely vocal bunch.

As for you specifically, I don't really know you. You sometimes have some great posts, often you post things I just don't agee with. I don't spend much time thinking about you, or 72.999 million others. Just collectively, some are gullible, and a few are actively trying to undermine America. That's MY opinion, and I stand by it.
You are coming across with that holier-than-thou sanctimony. Don’t you see that? You feel sorry for me?! I’m an intelligent, thoughtful, and kind woman who is capable of making up her own mind.

To us, it’s the opposite. You were duped into voting for a demented old man who never accomplished anything during his 50 years of government service, and is everything you claim Trump is - a liar, corrupt, and so forth.

Similarly, we feel you (the general you) are misguided. You excuse away the most obvious signs of fraud, and the means by which Democrats perpetrated it. You ended up voting for Harris - selected because of her skin color and genitalia, and because she will do the bidding of Pelosi et al.

MY opinion is that the media created such a hatefest against Trump that gullible people are willing to deny obvious fraud and align with someone bought and paid for by the CCP than vote for Trump. I blame the media more than the fraud, actually. If the media had done their job correctly, all the fraud in the world could not have overcome Trump’s lead.

I don’t know you, either, obviously. Sometimes you’re nice, and I suspect you’re a decent chap. The problem is that you’ve been brainwashed by liberal media. And that is of course my opinion as well.
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