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Old 12-18-2020, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The Bells Palsy cases with some of the test group subjects has me little concerned. By the time I end up getting the vaccine should be a at least 1 million vaccinated by then. Hopefully any issues actually go public probably lot of pressure to keep side effects reports out of the news as the risk of a small number of people is outweighed by the larger population being vaccinated.
The number of cases of Bell's palsy is no higher than would be expected in a set of people the size of those included in the trials.

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What could go wrong ?

https://youtu.be/p9agUz5cQCk
Could you summarize the video, please.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I'm only worried due to the allergy issue. As a child, I had a few severe allergic reactions. One required hospitalization and eventually nearly bankrupted my parents for going out of network for doctors that would treat childhood asthma. HIP which was in network, wouldn't at the time treat asthma in children. I never needed an epipen but now it seems there are allergic reactions. This is happening in AZ and is being considered "anxiety attacks" by AZ DHS which hasn't been that great at AZ COVID response...
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:15 PM
 
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I'm only worried due to the allergy issue. As a child, I had a few severe allergic reactions. One required hospitalization and eventually nearly bankrupted my parents for going out of network for doctors that would treat childhood asthma. HIP which was in network, wouldn't at the time treat asthma in children. I never needed an epipen but now it seems there are allergic reactions. This is happening in AZ and is being considered "anxiety attacks" by AZ DHS which hasn't been that great at AZ COVID response...

Valid concern. Asthma is no joke. Mine's mild, adult-onset, likely due to living with a heavy smoker as a child plus allergies. Have you read the list of ingredients in the Pfizer vaccine? They are listed in this article, in case you or someone else reading the thread hasn't.


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Old 12-18-2020, 08:26 PM
 
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I'm OK, I got baptized in the Flint River when I was younger.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gLLZ_D1Lqw
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Got mine four hours ago, haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, just a little soreness in the shoulder like with any other vaccine.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I'm only worried due to the allergy issue. As a child, I had a few severe allergic reactions. One required hospitalization and eventually nearly bankrupted my parents for going out of network for doctors that would treat childhood asthma. HIP which was in network, wouldn't at the time treat asthma in children. I never needed an epipen but now it seems there are allergic reactions. This is happening in AZ and is being considered "anxiety attacks" by AZ DHS which hasn't been that great at AZ COVID response...
The insurance carrier should have been challenged for not paying for out of network care that could not be provided by providers in network. I know doctors who have gone all the way to state health commissioners about that. The response from the insurance company is usually prompt and coverage provided.

An anxiety attack is easy to differentiate from a severe allergic reaction.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The insurance carrier should have been challenged for not paying for out of network care that could not be provided by providers in network. I know doctors who have gone all the way to state health commissioners about that. The response from the insurance company is usually prompt and coverage provided.

An anxiety attack is easy to differentiate from a severe allergic reaction.
I was not even two at the time and this was in the 1980's. Insurers well into the pre-rollout of Obamacare, really could get away with this.
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:01 PM
 
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How to say no.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...mes-mandatory/
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I was not even two at the time and this was in the 1980's. Insurers well into the pre-rollout of Obamacare, really could get away with this.
Even then decisions by insurance companies could be appealed. Letters from doctors to insurance commissioners tend to get favorable results for patients.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:43 PM
 
Location: 53179
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If that surgeon is the only alternative, no. If there is one who is vaccinated I would ask to be transferred to his care.
Suzy... really? Lol
You are way out of touch with reality when it comes to this particular subject.
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