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Originally Posted by greywar
electoral college has voted. This is done. New president elect out front should told ya. And this isnt 1876. You folks are just insanely desperate to overturn our elections for your authoritarian guy. This is the United States, not Russia.
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What went on in 1876 is sort of similar, but not really.
So, Hayes had a majority of Electors (by 1) in 1876. They cast their ballots as such but they weren't counted yet. Here's an example:
Oregon was won by Hayes. One of the Electors was disputed, not because of the vote but because the Elector held elected office (outgoing postmaster general for Oregon). So the governor appointed a different Elector - for the other party instead.
It wasn't election fraud so much as a governor attempting to overturn the will of the people.
In a few other states, there were electoral problems. A suspiciously high turn-out in South Carolina and in Louisiana, ballots were created improperly and possibly fooled some voters to vote for the wrong candidate.
Ultimately, the numbers were on Hayes' side. It was easier to justify a win for him since Tilden would have needed to overturn all the states he lost. However, a backdoor deal was made where Reconstruction would end and Hayes would be given the Presidency.
As for 2020, the thing to keep in mind is that when the House and Senate discuss whether an objection is valid, this is still an up and down vote across each chamber. The state delegations don't come into play unless Electors are thrown out and no one reaches 270. I can't imagine any Democrats voting to throw out a state's Electors. And I also can't imagine every Republican in the Senate also voting to throw out a state's Electors.
In my opinion, there IS going to be some drama on the House floor on January 6th. It'll be a last ditch effort by Trump loyalists to overturn the Election. So far, our institutions have stood strong against these efforts. I'll imagine they will hold up here too.