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Old 12-16-2020, 06:16 PM
 
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They've been working on mRNA vaccines for over a decade.
which vaccines now other than the covid are mrna currently?

they probably have been studying them but how long have official ones been out?

thanks, it could be safe but when given a choice I would rather take the old fashioned ones where a weak virus is inserted.

 
Old 12-16-2020, 06:18 PM
 
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What is so hard to understand about “we are not trying to prevent infection, only to mitigate symptoms and death”?
Ideally a vaccine will reduce transmission, otherwise there will not be herd immunity. Herd immunity is what protects those or whom the vaccine does not work (about 6% in the mRNA trials) and those who cannot take it for medical reasons or because the refuse it.

Right now we do not know whether the mRNA vaccines prevent transmission in humans. The animal trials provide data suggesting they will. In the absence of knowledge either way, we will need to continue mitigation procedures until we have it.

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which vaccines now other than the covid are mrna currently?

they probably have been studying them but how long have official ones been out?

thanks, it could be safe but when given a choice I would rather take the old fashioned ones where a weak virus is inserted.
The "old fashioned" vaccines have disadvantages, too. The two vaccines closest to being able to show results, from AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson, also use newer technology.

Any vaccine using a live attenuated virus carries the risk that the virus in it can revert to a form that could cause disease, for example. It also requires the factories that make it to handle the live virus.

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Old 12-16-2020, 06:29 PM
 
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Insurance companies (both health and life) will raise rates for those who don't get the vaccine. Vaccine refusals are highest in the NYC area.
Never in my life has any insurance I had, ever known the status of me being vaccinated for anything. I have had my current insurance for over ten years, not one time has vaccinations of any kind come up.
 
Old 12-16-2020, 06:33 PM
 
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They've been working on mRNA vaccines for over a decade.
Then why have they not been using it then? lol

Yea, rushed things, just as they rushed that Boeing 737 Max, you know, depend on the gov and manufacturer to make sure everything is just fine. But since Boeing and the US gov had motives, which was to beat Airbus out the door...
 
Old 12-16-2020, 07:18 PM
 
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Then why have they not been using it then? lol

Yea, rushed things, just as they rushed that Boeing 737 Max, you know, depend on the gov and manufacturer to make sure everything is just fine. But since Boeing and the US gov had motives, which was to beat Airbus out the door...

They also rushed the U-2 and the B-52, yet both planes have been in service for over half a century.



The U-2 went from paper-napkin concept to flight in 18 months. The last B-52 airframe was produced in 1960 and is expected to be flying for a century before retirement. Imagine flying a combat airplane that is literally a hundred years old.



"Rushed" does not inevitably mean "bad."
 
Old 12-16-2020, 07:33 PM
 
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They also rushed the U-2 and the B-52, yet both planes have been in service for over half a century.



The U-2 went from paper-napkin concept to flight in 18 months. The last B-52 airframe was produced in 1960 and is expected to be flying for a century before retirement. Imagine flying a combat airplane that is literally a hundred years old.



"Rushed" does not inevitably mean "bad."
Where does it say either of those two were rushed?
 
Old 12-16-2020, 08:45 PM
 
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Where does it say either of those two were rushed?

In books written long before the Internet.
 
Old 12-16-2020, 09:02 PM
 
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In books written long before the Internet.
Which books?
 
Old 12-16-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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Which books?

For me, it was the SAC histories I read while on the SAC headquarters staff. I'm sure the information is available elsewhere. I think they even made a movie about the B-52 development.
 
Old 12-18-2021, 01:42 PM
 
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Religious exemption...
which is bs
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