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Old 12-15-2020, 10:50 AM
 
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If the Indians want to change their names, that's fine with me. IMO, Spiders (an earlier Cleveland team) seems like a cool replacement name, and is getting tons of buzz.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:05 AM
 
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I'm sure that this has something to do with states rights to form their own curriculum. Like ClaraC I didn't learn this until adulthood, or at least make the correlation between the western route to India and calling the indigenous people "Indians". Quite frankly we barely touched Columbus and learned more about Amerigo Vespucci.

Additionally, growing up in New England we focused a lot more on the settlers of the new world and the revolution than we did the "discovery" of America. Perhaps it was because there really was no "discovery" and our curriculum was 40 years ahead of it's time? I don't know.
Thank you for this post. I would not have known the teachings varied that much.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:06 AM
 
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Who are these native and indigenous people you guys keep referring to?
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:09 AM
 
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Calling a pro sports team Indian is meant to honor the native americans.

But "indian" is an inappropriate moniker. They are not "Indians", they are natives or indigenous.

Indians are from the indian Subcontinent in Asia.

Actually its about time our "indians" got a proper ethnic moniker. Even the Aboriginese in OZ have one. There are islanders that have them too like Samoan, Fijians.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:12 AM
 
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Calling a pro sports team Indian is meant to honor the native americans.

But "indian" is an inappropriate moniker. They are not "Indians", they are natives or indigenous.

Indians are from the indian Subcontinent in Asia.

Actually its about time our "indians" got a proper ethnic moniker. Even the Aboriginese in OZ have one. There are islanders that have them too like Samoan, Fijians.
They are not native or indigenous.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Cleveland Buzzards would be much cooler.

Goes back to when radio was worth listening to.

Google WMMS Buzzard if you care enough to find out.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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The baseball club in Cleveland was named the "Indians" 105 years ago in honor of Louis Sockalexis, a Mainer and member of the Penobscot Indian tribe who compiled a .315 average during his brief career in Cleveland. But now George Floyd so...l

As long as the owner of the Cleveland baseball team is changing their name I think the Cleveland Browns should change their name also...Browns has to be a slap in the face to all brown people in the US.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:53 AM
 
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They should change their name to the Cleveland Engines...
Or the Cleveland Steam Engines.

I'm sure there's a joke there.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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It is true that usually when a team adopts a mascot, they don't have the intent of denigrating it. Usually mascots are portrayed as extremely strong and brave. Their mascot illustrations are elevated.

This one though? What a goofball.
Yes, I'll agree that Chief Wahoo is an ugly caricature and should be relegated to the trash heap, but I don't see anything wrong the the Braves or the Indians as names for sports teams.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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If the Indians want to change their names, that's fine with me. IMO, Spiders (an earlier Cleveland team) seems like a cool replacement name, and is getting tons of buzz.
The Cleveland Spiders??? That is not a good name.
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