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Originally Posted by gg
Finally? You don't acknowledge until the electoral has spoken! There is no "finally" about it.
Why are people so ignorant about how the US runs? Odd. Learn about how things work.
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In most election years, the Electoral College is a formality. We don't follow it because we don't need to. Most elections, we know who wins the Electoral College based on returns on Election Night or the morning after. Sure, some states might be close, but if one candidate is leading with large margins in states worth 340 EV, it won't matter if one close state flips after a recount. Even in 2020, the largest vote change during recounts was about 2,000 votes.
In normal times, we can extrapolate the winner from Election Night based on the following:
- We know how many Electoral Votes each state has
- We have a good idea of who won each state since recounts rarely change the winner of the state
- If a candidate has "recount-proof" margins in enough states, that gives an added level of confidence
- Electors generally vote for the candidates they are sworn to vote for
- Congress always accepts the Electors when counted on the House floor in January
This is why in nearly every election in the last 100+ years, except for 2000 and 2020, that we knew who the winner would be shortly after the election. 2020 is special case not because the election was close but because of the volume of mail-in ballots that had to be counted. However, the margins Biden won by are not that different than what Trump won by in 2016 or what Bush won by in 2004 (which was closer than it appeared on Election Night 2004).
The fact that people say:
- We should wait for the safe harbor date when all states have certified!
- We should wait for the Electors to vote!
- We should wait for the Electors to be counted in January!
is just dragging out the inevitable. When was the last time a President-Elect didn't become President? I can't recall a single time. Since the winner is based on Electoral projections after the votes are counted, there is nothing subjective left.
Trump won in 2016 with tighter margins than Biden did. We recognized Trump won shortly after the vote was done being counted. Not a month after the vote was being counted.
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