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Old 12-15-2020, 01:37 PM
 
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The USA attacks China?

It's amazing that after being economically raped for 30 years, standing up for ourselves just a little bit is considered an attack. Truly pathetic.

Hopefully you're a Chinese plant. Sadly, you're probably an American.
yes, we attack china, and anyone else that doesn't do our bidding. you're just blind to our propaganda.

it's not china's fault that we sent our manufacturing there. they were the lowest bidder in the 90s, and even now that they aren't, they have the most stable political system, best infrastructure and manufacturing know-how, which means even with higher labor costs, it still makes sense to produce there.


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Old 12-15-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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I refuse, and do not buy anything made in China unless I have to. Unfortunately for many things "made in China" is my only choice.
Covid-19 was purposeful and accomplished (or will have) many things for China. It insured their rise to the #1 economic superpower, killed off more Americans than died in WWII, and they get off free with an "oops it was an accident", the narrative pushed by their lap dog apologist lefty government implants and bought off mainstream media.
yeah, and what was it about our country that couldn't deal with the virus, whereas others could?
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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New symptom: COVID-19 causes sinophobia.
not COVID but anytime there is a rising power that threatens our supremacy. 30 years ago it was japan. this time it happens to be china.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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So?
Personally, I will continue to buy whatever I want from whatever country I want. But you are welcome to continue screaming that China is bad - despite the hard cold fact that it's the USA that attacks China, not vice versa.

If you are so "patriotic" I would suggest that instead of screaming you can start some business to produce goods here so people can buy them local instead of importing.
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I thought slavery was bad? Do you know China has 1,000,000 slaves in concentration/labor camps?
false

Did you know they tear out fetuses of pregnant Mothers there, & harvest human organs from their live captors?
false

Are you okay with that? Even if they don't use anesthesia?

Do you know China doesn't allow ANY USA company to own land, or machinery, in China?
false

Did you know China prohibited 3M from shipping N-95 masks made in China back to the U.S.?

Did you know China owns the U.S.'s largest pork producer?

Did you know China's buying up farm land in the USA...and our food chain company's?

Did you know China's patent thefts have cost American's Billons?
patent "thefts" or willing knowledge transfers by companies wanting to build and sell in china?

Did you know China knew about C-19 being highly contagious, yet allowed thousands of Chinese to fly into the USA to spread the pandemic?
false

Are you really okay with all this? Are you that "Un-Patriotic"?

and, B-T-W, I do have a company that makes a product in the USA so it doesn't have to be imported from China. Do you?
quite a few of your claims are false.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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[quote=beach43ofus;59919672]
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Originally Posted by kanonka View Post
So?
Personally, I will continue to buy whatever I want from whatever country I want. But you are welcome to continue screaming that China is bad - despite the hard cold fact that it's the USA that attacks China, not vice versa.

If you are so "patriotic" I would suggest that instead of screaming you can start some business to produce goods here so people can buy them local instead of importing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I thought slavery was bad? Do you know China has 1,000,000 slaves in concentration/labor camps?

Did you know they tear out fetuses of pregnant Mothers there, & harvest human organs from their live captors?

Are you okay with that? Even if they don't use anesthesia?

Do you know China doesn't allow ANY USA company to own land, or machinery, in China?

Did you know China prohibited 3M from shipping N-95 masks made in China back to the U.S.?

Did you know China owns the U.S.'s largest pork producer?

Did you know China's buying up farm land in the USA...and our food chain company's?

Did you know China's patent thefts have cost American's Billons?

Did you know China knew about C-19 being highly contagious, yet allowed thousands of Chinese to fly into the USA to spread the pandemic?

Are you really okay with all this? Are you that "Un-Patriotic"?

and, B-T-W, I do have a company that makes a product in the USA so it doesn't have to be imported from China. Do you?
yeah, right. And Jews are eating Christian babies. Same level of credibility.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:54 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/b...ade-covid.html

Never before have I seen a country betrayed by its OWN people.

You people will rue this day, especially the suburban families who order garbage from China in mass to fill the empty hole in their lives.

And this goes for everyone, I know all of you buy Chinese goods nonstop.
I think we are getting to the point were we are so many generations away from when we actually made things here, that is has been forgotten. People just aren't aware of entire industries that could support a family on one income that were once here, are now helping create a middle class in some low cost country. It's a shame. We all did this to ourselves. Politicians, Corporations, and Consumers are all to blame.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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The people who sold out the American worker are greedy employers who exported millions of jobs. These Republican millionaires and billionaires could care less about Americans other than their own elite cohort.
You are so un-American. "The greed is good" (c):
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/Mov...allstreet.html
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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I am sure its not rocket science to build most non electronic consumer items here. Even if electronics assembled here, we dont have the infrastructure to produce the components.


There is manufacturing here, but its specialty industrial type stuff, NOT consumer stuff, except maybe tiny bit of expensive high end stuff. Nobody manufacturing in America is making typical consumer stuff. The only way to be price competitive with China is to automate to the extreme and this wouldnt bring back good paying jobs, just handful more maintenance tech jobs. I am guessing even stuff manufactured here uses foreign metals, etc.



You arent ever going to get back significant number factory assembly line jobs. The only way would be to impose import tariffs to make any imported goods more expensive than they could be produced here. Can we say world wide trade war? Since Congress and POTUS are owned by corporations and 1%rs this just wont happen. Socialism my wrinkly ole butt, we are corporate capitalist whichever mainstream party you pick. And those are headed to monopolies and oligopolies. Notice the big price increases, yet the apologists scream no inflation. No inflation on Chinese tvs but otherwise.... they are liars.
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:28 PM
 
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I am sure its not rocket science to build most non electronic consumer items here. Even if electronics assembled here, we dont have the infrastructure to produce the components.


There is manufacturing here, but its specialty industrial type stuff, NOT consumer stuff, except maybe tiny bit of expensive high end stuff. Nobody manufacturing in America is making typical consumer stuff. The only way to be price competitive with China is to automate to the extreme and this wouldnt bring back good paying jobs, just handful more maintenance tech jobs. I am guessing even stuff manufactured here uses foreign metals, etc.



You arent ever going to get back significant number factory assembly line jobs. The only way would be to impose import tariffs to make any imported goods more expensive than they could be produced here. Can we say world wide trade war? Since Congress and POTUS are owned by corporations and 1%rs this just wont happen. Socialism my wrinkly ole butt, we are corporate capitalist whichever mainstream party you pick. And those are headed to monopolies and oligopolies. Notice the big price increases, yet the apologists scream no inflation. No inflation on Chinese tvs but otherwise.... they are liars.
It wasn't just assembly lines.

We use to have craft producers, small companies, a web of supply chains that would directly feed into a community.

It brought political and economic unity between the rich and poor, what happened?

We would be happier like that, even if there were less TVs and computers. If you were especially poor you could go to a library and use those computers.
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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If we got rid of 30 million illegals here I bet it would have a big impact on buying Chinees junk !!!
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