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When we had an overwhelmingly white majority here, we let Europe screw us. Now with large numbers of Asians and Hispanics, now those homelands are screwing us. We trampled on the Middle East for trying it without have a large population here. I guess Africa is last in line to stick us a good one.
Hopefully that’s it, but I fear the -funny go round- will just begin again.
What’s not fair is that this country was fattened up for the sticking, yet now that China is getting plump and rosy, they refuse to accept that it’s their turn over the barrel. But then again, their not diverse.
Diversity is strength, lolololololol, more like an amusement park...
Chinese Dr. Li Yi, Ph.D. in sociology from the University of Illinois: "We’ll soon surpass the U.S., they will not survive, we’ll drive the U.S. to its death". When will we wake up?
I hope everybody complaining about the Chinese, China Joe, etc. made in China or parts made in China buys not one thing from China.
The American public wanted this.
We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo told us that 50+ years ago.
The American Public didn't want this. They were lead and steered like cattle to their masters wishes. When I was in Grad school we did a Political Science exercise as part of MBA program on NAFTA whereby you plot all the various constituencies and their relative positions and strength weighted and then determine based on all of them whether the issue (Free Trade as in NAFTA version ) would pass. At that time in the exercise we determined it shouldn't pass based upon the exercise - in that we took into account ALL the various constituencies. However, what the exercise didn't spell out to students was that bought out politicians will pass whatever their 'corporate masters/Funders" want by hook or crook (re: Bribery / Blackmail).
Most Americans remained ignorant of what it would do even when Sir James Goldsmith pointed it out succinctly in an interview with Charlie Rose.
As for China driving the U.S. to death all we have to do is simply demand the same level of environmental regulations as the US has (Peter Navarro pointed this out over 15 years ago in his book the coming China Wars) - and while we are at it export Diversity, Inclusion, by sending our agit-prop leftist community organizers and see how well they do in 'adapting' in an ideal world of "Social Credit". It would be so nice to watch on world stage how China receives them and how well they would do.
The only way the US will be driven to its death is if we allow it to happen.
Define death.
Over the long-term there is nothing the United States can do to stop the rise of China. We did help them along, but we also made them dependent. China doesn't want to destroy us, they need us. At least for now.
The key to China's growing influence is its size. But China isn't the only behemoth that threatens US global hegemony. India too could become more powerful than the United States over the next few decades. And while India is less adversarial than China, India will look out for itself.
As for the death of the United States. I think the diversity of the United States is a weak point. A country like China, or even Russia, could exploit racial or ethnic sentiments to stoke violence and divide the country. And honestly, it wouldn't even take much. A lot of Americans seem to be looking forward to a Civil War.
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Also, people need to stop this dumb binary thinking: if China surpasses the US on a certain metric, it doesn't mean that the US has fallen to zero in that metric. Whatever the US' reality is in this situation will likely stay the same for us.
If there's a class of kids and the tallest kid is 6'3, and then one day a new kid transfers in who's 6'4, that doesn't mean that the kid who's 6'3 is short. He's just the second tallest.
Keep in mind the current world order is called "Pax Americana". We are the policeman of the world. We protect international trade, the world's shipping lanes, the flow of oil, etc. There would be no globalization without the United States.
The United States has maintained order by being the dominant power globally. We are the Hobbesian Leviathan that prevents major wars and creates stability. When China begins to exert itself, it will likely lead to something like another Cold War. And if China becomes significantly more powerful than the United States, they will try to export their system regionally and across the world. They want to spread their influence and to supplant the United States as the world's first power.
But most importantly, if China supplants the United States as the greatest economic power, the Yuan could displace the dollar as the world's reserve currency. And if that happens, the collapse of the United States is probably eminent. We would no longer be able to run $600 billion a year trade deficits, and we could no longer afford our hundreds of foreign military bases.
The American Public didn't want this. They were lead and steered like cattle to their masters wishes. When I was in Grad school we did a Political Science exercise as part of MBA program on NAFTA whereby you plot all the various constituencies and their relative positions and strength weighted and then determine based on all of them whether the issue (Free Trade as in NAFTA version ) would pass. At that time in the exercise we determined it shouldn't pass based upon the exercise - in that we took into account ALL the various constituencies. However, what the exercise didn't spell out to students was that bought out politicians will pass whatever their 'corporate masters/Funders" want by hook or crook (re: Bribery / Blackmail).
Most Americans remained ignorant of what it would do even when Sir James Goldsmith pointed it out succinctly in an interview with Charlie Rose.
As for China driving the U.S. to death all we have to do is simply demand the same level of environmental regulations as the US has (Peter Navarro pointed this out over 15 years ago in his book the coming China Wars) - and while we are at it export Diversity, Inclusion, by sending our agit-prop leftist community organizers and see how well they do in 'adapting' in an ideal world of "Social Credit". It would be so nice to watch on world stage how China receives them and how well they would do.
See post 26
And add did the American public continue to re elect those same politicians after the problem was well known.
Consumers are citizens.
Part of being a citizen involves being aware of current events and a little history.
Deciding to put one's own put willful ignorance above the good of the country is a cop out. You can call it whatever you want.
Politicians, like Joe Biden, facilitated the tidal wave of Chinese goods into America. They sold us out.
Globalism was ineviteable, but is was done very poorly by our Government, because they fed a Communist regime Trillions of Dollars, so it could grow like a cancer.
Our Federal Government built China, & skimmed their share off the top. Read about how Al Gore become wealthy using his political ties & influence, to move Apple's manufacturing to China...just 1 example.
If the 99% doesn't wake up to what Washington DC is doing to them soon, China will own America, & its closer than you think. I predict that our grandchildren will see Mandarin taught in our schools as a required course.
Did you see the article today that said Biden will not remove Trump's China tarriffs en masse, but just use them in a more strategic manner? Translation...if a certain Chinese company, or industry, pays to play, their tarriffs will be reduced, and/or removed. Biden is already starting up his international corruption machine.
If Blue 99%'ers, and Red 99%'ers, do not come together soon to crush the 1%, freedom will fall.
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I hope everybody complaining about the Chinese, China Joe, etc. made in China or parts made in China buys not one thing from China.
The American public wanted this.
We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo told us that 50+ years ago.
The only way the US will be driven to its death is if we allow it to happen. Also, people need to stop this dumb binary thinking: if China surpasses the US on a certain metric, it doesn't mean that the US has fallen to zero in that metric. Whatever the US' reality is in this situation will likely stay the same for us.
If there's a class of kids and the tallest kid is 6'3, and then one day a new kid transfers in who's 6'4, that doesn't mean that the kid who's 6'3 is short. He's just the second tallest.
It's already being allowed. It's being allowed when big tech censors a story that could keep the guy that China wants to be President from being elected. It's allowed when all the MSM ignores the story and claims it was debunked already. It's allowed when we find out or voting machines are linked to China and the election had rampant fraud. It's happening when our representatives are being paid off by or spied on by Chinese people.
With China Joe and his communist VP sidekick in charge the trip has left the start line !!!
Thats what we know !!!
They are traveling but recommending the little people stay home !!! So special !!!
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