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Old 01-31-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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https://abc13.com/mark-anthony-aguir...center/8802235

He thought an air conditioning repairman was a voter fraud king. Good lord.

This is why this rhetoric is so dangerous. Plenty of nuts out there ready to take the law in their own hands.
Rhetoric is not dangerous.

You simply need to follow the law and deal with people when they break them.

Rhetoric was just fine in the summer 2020... now - not so much.
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Old 01-31-2021, 07:33 PM
 
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"Rhetoric" should not be dangerous at all and should not be curtailed at all by either the right or the left (or anyone else). Anyone who does not have the ability to process "rhetoric" and form an opinion as to the accuracy or importance of said "rhetoric" should not be allowed into public because their IQ is obviously too low to function in society. You don't kill free speech because people are stupid. You either educate or institutionalize the stupid people.

Anyone who would go jump off a bridge because a "rhetorician" told him to... should go ahead and jump. And no one should stop him.
The irony of your post is amazing.
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Old 01-31-2021, 07:33 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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That article said former police captain but it turns out he was fired in 2003. Thank goodness he was no longer in law enforcement because who knows the bogus story he would have made up and probably been believed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/u...k-aguirre.html
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Old 01-31-2021, 07:38 PM
 
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While I am certainly able and willing to say, "That's unfortunate," I am unable to sympathize with those prone to the Pavlov dog thing. Unless someone was holding a gun against the heads of those committing atrocities, there is nobody to blame besides those who committed atrocities. There is this concept called "responsibility for one's own actions." I am a firm believer in that philosophy. If I commit some sort of crime, justified or not, there is nobody to blame but myself... certainly not the guy in the black hat who "told" me I needed to go out and do whatever it was. I'm not a zombie.

And again, your stance on the issue is actually making the quasi-claim that people are zombies. Some are, I suppose. But they are the ones who need to answer for that, not someone else's free speech.
People are conned. Cults can be persuasive. While there may be some legal distinctions supporting those who use violent rhetoric vs this who act on it there is no moral allowance to allowing for rhetoric.
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Old 12-15-2021, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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He was finely charged by a grand jury for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He was paid over 200k by the Houston-based Liberty Center for God and Country who is operated by Dr. Steven Hotze. He is a conspiracy theorist who has been quoted many times by the MAGA crowed on Covid, and the election. What I find odd was the fact that police who came to the scene of Retired officer Aguirre holding the AC repair man at gunpoint didn't arrest him they let him go with his firearm. He wasn't charged until a year later. Dr Hotze should be charged with conspiracy to the aggravated assault because he paid 200k to Aguirre to assault the man.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...thorities-say/ +


Lawsuit against Hotze by the AC repair man.
https://abc13.com/ballot-fraud-inves...ntry/10458987/

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