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You say you don't want chocolate cake yet you are mixing up chocolate cake batter.
We nominated the most center left candidate possible, to the exception of all flavors of further left (none of whom rise the level of flat our socialist command economy by the way) and yet you continue to believe what you want to believe. Facts and evidence smacking you up side the head be damned.
You say you don't want chocolate cake yet you are mixing up chocolate cake batter.
Exactly. The say they "don't want Venezuela," yet they are mixing up a recipe that historically has always lead to what they have in Venezuela. Makes a lot of sense, huh? I chalk some of it up to lack of research, some of it up to stupidity, some of it up to group think... But mostly I chalk it up to arrogance. They really think they can go down the same path as every other failed or totalitarian socialist state and have a different outcome this time around. Even with a 100% historical failure rate. I suppose because "this is America, and this time it will be different." It won't be. And it is too bad that those people cannot realize that beating your head against a wall and expecting a different outcome besides a concussion is... well, let's just say not very bright.
We nominated the most center left candidate possible, to the exception of all flavors of further left (none of whom rise the level of flat our socialist command economy by the way) and yet you continue to believe what you want to believe. Facts and evidence smacking you up side the head be damned.
First of all YOU didn't pick him. The party picked him for you. You would have picked Bernie and you know it. Secondly, his VP is the most LEFT candidate in the Senate....LEFT of Bernie. Has the most liberal voting recording in the Senate. And let's be honest. Biden won't be running things. He couldn't even tie his own shoe right now. He is putting all Obama's people back. Biden is just a figurehead. He is not the one running the show.
First of all YOU didn't pick him. The party picked him for you. You would have picked Bernie and you know it. Secondly, his VP is the most LEFT candidate in the Senate....LEFT of Bernie. Has the most liberal voting recording in the Senate. And let's be honest. Biden won't be running things. He couldn't even tie his own shoe right now. He is putting all Obama's people back. Biden is just a figurehead. He is not the one running the show.
What "socialist" policies did the evil Obama appointees put in place? A mandate to buy private health insurance is not "socialism", by the way. It's a bad idea, but it's not socialism.
First of all YOU didn't pick him. The party picked him for you. You would have picked Bernie and you know it. Secondly, his VP is the most LEFT candidate in the Senate....LEFT of Bernie. Has the most liberal voting recording in the Senate. And let's be honest. Biden won't be running things. He couldn't even tie his own shoe right now. He is putting all Obama's people back. Biden is just a figurehead. He is not the one running the show.
Ahh, no. I voted for Biden in the primary. If I'm honest, I'll tell you your unsubstantiated, derisive, fright filled delusions about who's going to be running what and how are irrelevant. She'll be as relevant as Pence was. Like all VPs.
We have checks and balances in this country that would make the path to a command economy one that will never happen.
I mourn the loss of a moderate and intelligent right wing because there are in fact aspects of the left wing that I want kept in check. You should feel the same way.
But when you guys go full on fascist, to the extent of trying to undo an election, I can't do anything but tell my leaders what I want and continue to vote for the more moderate among them.
Therein lies the main problem -- most people are ignorant, stupid, or a combination of both.
God already provides freedom to everyone on this planet. It's up to the people to maintain this freedom and prevent tyrants from taking that freedom away.
Everyone has the right to see a doctor already. If they want healthcare, then they'll have to pay.
If you want food at a restaurant, you have to pay for that too!
Everyone already has this right. You can get a job, make money, and rent an apartment.
Everyone already has this right.
You have the right to choose to make good financial & life decisions.
No such thing exists.
God created us all differently, with different abilities, different genetics, different appearances, etc.
I'm not in the 1% and I am doing just fine. If capitalism has failed, then how did America & the rest of the western world become the wealthiest and most successful nations in all of human history?
No, you just demand that people more successful than you hand over their money so you can buy a bunch of crap that you want. You're envious of the success of others. You covet what they have. What does the 10th commandment say?
Socialism doesn't work, it's already been tried multiple times with horrible results, and leading to tens of millions of deaths.
Western Europe has had tens of millions of deaths because of social welfare programs? I'd hesitate to say the United States has a lower standard of living and life expectancy because of lesser social programs, therefore more deaths, but at least I don't get my healthcare from the "gub-ment".
Again, raving right wing media fans can't be taken seriously....because they compare re-distributive social welfare polices that have positive impacts all over the world, to draconian communist measures from Soviet Russia and Communist China.
What's even more sad is that a lot of this raving comes from middle and lower class white people who've bought a lie sold by the right through Rush Limbaugh and his ilk for 35 years. Before that working class white people were far less dumb than they are now.
The top 1% are crushing the remaining 99% in a continuous march to socialism, that is invisible to most.
Socialism vitiates the 1%, sometimes from the barrel of a gun... only to replace them with a new 1%, which in turn tends to self-replace through tumults and purges.
For the existing 1% to retain their primacy, the very last thing that they'd desire, is socialism.
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus
The 99% are losing control.
Name any society, at any point in history, where it was not the case, that "the 1%" were firmly in control. Athenian democracy? Pericles, anyone? Roman republic? Senatorial families. And from where, if not the 1%, did the American Founding Fathers hail?
Besides, given the tenor of your various recent posts, Beach43, are you not yourself a member of the 1%? Why inveigh against a system that on a personal level seems to be treating you well?
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Originally Posted by ChrisC
Exactly. The say they "don't want Venezuela," yet they are mixing up a recipe that historically has always lead to what they have in Venezuela.
Exactly. Culture and historical precedent matter. No colony planted by England has in any sense become outright socialist, or lost its democratic footing, or sustained a takeover by a junta. Plenty of colonies - indeed, most - that have been planted by Spain, have been mired in that morass. Why? Culture and history. Look at the history of how England was ruled, vs. how Spain was ruled.
I'm not fine with criminals being treated as victims nor deadbeats getting handouts galore. Are you? Because that's where this is headed and is my main objection.
Along with a firm belief that those who can best afford it will be least affected. It'll be a great time to be very poor or very rich. Average working stiff will be who pays for all of these insane handouts.
But you're perfectly fine with the rich getting tax cuts, right? Or the rich getting richer? Or american wage slaves, I mean workers having some of the fewest rights in the developed world? That's ALL ok because less someone worked "the system"
Therein lies the main problem -- most people are ignorant, stupid, or a combination of both.
God already provides freedom to everyone on this planet. It's up to the people to maintain this freedom and prevent tyrants from taking that freedom away.
Everyone has the right to see a doctor already. If they want healthcare, then they'll have to pay.
If you want food at a restaurant, you have to pay for that too!
Everyone already has this right. You can get a job, make money, and rent an apartment.
Everyone already has this right.
You have the right to choose to make good financial & life decisions.
No such thing exists.
God created us all differently, with different abilities, different genetics, different appearances, etc.
I'm not in the 1% and I am doing just fine. If capitalism has failed, then how did America & the rest of the western world become the wealthiest and most successful nations in all of human history?
No, you just demand that people more successful than you hand over their money so you can buy a bunch of crap that you want. You're envious of the success of others. You covet what they have. What does the 10th commandment say?
Socialism doesn't work, it's already been tried multiple times with horrible results, and leading to tens of millions of deaths.
Lol by robbing, lying, wiping out entire races of people and enslaving still more races. The AMERICAN way
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