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Old 03-20-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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But why? If they don't want to take the vaccine, that's their choice. ...
It is irresponsible.

People become carriers ... they become incubators for new strains.

Maybe it passes from you through another person and does not harm them, then through another then another ... no one is harmed. Then someone catches that same strain that passed through you and has their lungs scarred for life, or even dies. Those are preventable tragedies.

Or maybe somewhere along the line it mutates or recombines, becoming easier to spread or more dangerous ... you or I could have stopped that mutation right then, when we had an opportunity to take a vaccine ... and all of the people after us were spared: the mutations didn't happened, Billy Bob's lung scarring didn't happen, and someone's kid or grandpa didn't die.

All for a simple shot ... a free inoculation you or I could take. So much tragedy could be avoided.

 
Old 03-20-2021, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Spain
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The current covid vaccines are already useless against new variants of the virus.
Congrats, you made it exactly one sentence into your own thread without stating something untrue.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I think we can already see it.

Millions of vaccines have been handed out but the cases and deaths have hit a plateau. 60K in the USA per day and 1000 or so deaths.

They aren't going down.

We aren't going to get down to zero cases... ever --

If 30% of the population is vaccinated and we aren't seeing major drops... we should know we have a problem.

There are already scientists warning about the potential for this to make things worse.
There is no scientific basis for this post.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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It's fascinating to watch so much of the country oppose taking a vaccine. I'm inclined to think the result will be a major self-own for those people but am willing to find out by letting them not take the vaccine in a self-selected study to see the results.
This is inaccurate as well. The predominant #s of people worldwide are wanting the vaccine.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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With my employer, 10,000 people have received the vaccine.

About 20% of those tested positive for CoV19 prior to being vaccinated. Most of these people returned to work after 3 weeks. Most recovered completely in 2-3 months.

There were no deaths.

Of the total persons vaccinated no infections or reinfection have occurred.

It works.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Or covid
No covid deaths? What la la land do you live in? I'll be vaccinated tomorrow...I'll keep you posted.

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Old 03-20-2021, 03:09 PM
 
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No covid deaths? What la la land do you live in?
I stepped into this dudes cartoon world for a moment:
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There have been no deaths due to the COVID-19 vaccines. No causal links have been found. There are plenty of attention grabbing headlines, though, that have been thoroughly debunked.

Here is an international look after nearly 360 million vaccinations have been administered in more than 120 countries, according to Bloomberg's global vaccine tracker. That's about 9.25 million doses per day.

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-...ths/a-56458746
 
Old 03-20-2021, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The current covid vaccines are already useless against new variants of the virus. More variants are going to develop. As we have seen so far, vaccinations are not instantaneous in terms of distributing them to the population. It will take nearly 6 months just for this country to give everyone willing this current vaccine. We will then need to do this for every variant and a booster shot every year for each variant? That doesn't seem like something thats going to work or be feasible.

The only solutions to this virus are to do nothing and let it spread or to take the Aussie/Kiwi approach and lock down the country until no virus is present and keep the borders permanently shut down forever.

As long as people are allowed into this country from outside and there are covid variants spreading, this virus will never end. There will be endless masking, social distancing and testing requirements unless we admit that there is nothing we can do to ultimately stop it. Nature will run its course.
No vaccine provides 100% protection.

Nothing factual has determined “the current Covid vaccines are already useless against new variants of the virus”.

Viruses mutate because that’s what they do. The flu shot is reformulated every year and occasionally within the flu season based on projections of the combination of emerging variants. Some variants die off while others are aggressive.

Viruses are constantly mutating within the US and worldwide. Reportedly there are more mutuins in Florida than elsewhere in the US.

The B1526 and B1427/9 variants are commonly referred to as the NY and California variants, because those are the locations first detected. They are more transmisssble than the first virus.

So long as Covid spreads there will continue to be new variants.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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The current covid vaccines are already useless against new variants of the virus.
Are you a medical professional making this statement?!
 
Old 03-20-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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Are you a medical professional making this statement?!
lol as if that qualification has stopped you or anyone else here from commenting
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