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Old 12-19-2020, 07:36 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Originally Posted by Kristinas_Cap View Post
Don't worry, Biden will become President and he has an excellent advantage: Kamala Harris. You see, a first woman of color vice president will certainly be able to build back better with Joe as the United States focuses on social justice, a more equitable economy, lgbtqia+- rights, and environmental justice. I am confident that the USA will rejoin previous agreements and adhere to the norms and traditions that our country has enjoyed for centuries. Joe and Kamala will truly fight for the soul of America and that will make us stronger. Nothing but hope on the horizon!
This was a little too over the top to be believable.

No functioning, non-institutionalized, member of society really thinks like this.

Next time you may want to tone it down just a little bit.
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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I am frightened for my country. We are beset by enemies at home and abroad. Trump and his Republican toadies are working to destroy democracy by overturning a presidential election. Hundreds of Republican elected officials have signed on to the effort.

The Russians are attacking our government communications by hacking government agencies.

An epidemic is destroying lives of millions of Americans, with over 20 million unemployed.

This is straight out of the old Soviet Union playbook. The time to destabilize a nation is during transitions of power. The aim is to break up the United States and turn it into a collection of small Balkanized countries.

America was once the light of the world. We were the first nation ever to declare that we could rule ourselves without masters or overlords. It was known as "The Great Experiment," and changed the world for the better.

Now that experiment is on the verge of failure.
Nonsense
Get back to me when our 500 military bases around the world no longer exist.
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Old 12-19-2020, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Eh. Russians have been hacking and spying on us for decades. The epidemic is on the verge of ending and the economy will recover. Trump lost and the transition is happening. I suspect the republican party is smart enough to avoid a repeat of Trump in 2024. We obviously have divisions, but I suspect the next 8-12 years of POTUS will work to heal them.
The Russians have tried for decades to hack and spy us but largely they haven't been "successful" at it. This has happened especially under Vladimir Putin's "Presidency" (I use quotes since he is more like dictator than a president.) We had several Russian agents deported like that one that got into the NRA. The Russian fake news and bots while they have been talked about, largely haven't been found. This hack has gotten too into the US federal government agencies. And the worst part of it, I dont trust Trump to do anything about it because of his Russian business ventures and his personal feelings towards Vlady.

The epidemic is not ending anytime soon. We have at least half of a year before the vaccine (unless more drug makers get approval) before we get the general public to be vaccinated in significant quantities. And that is considering everyone that wants a vaccine and isn't antivax moon-bats are getting it. I think we are a good year away from that moment, like it or not.

Right now we are currently in our darkest days of the pandemic. Before we had spikes in a few states and could send extra nurse staffs to these states or airlift patients to another state. As what almost all continental US states peak during the holiday/winter third peak, no state is in a position to help with the excess. California is asking for doctors from other countries to help them out.

Trump lost but he is still causing chaos on his way out. He is burning down Washington on his way out. If you don't think that the Hunter Biden probe is political, you really aren't paying attention. Right wing sources are doing their best to tie President(-elect) Biden to it. It only works with the base that thinks Biden lost and stole the election. Trump did enough damage in the last month and a half, that we may never unite again.

The Republican Party is being led by its wagging tail. Too many Republicans aren't disavowing all the stupid and unfounded election fraud claims. Arizona state Republican lawmakers are looking at it still despite the election being final and the electoral votes cast. There isn't a strong enough Republican Party voice of being not Trumps that it will kill them going forward. I will never vote for any Republican who said the election was stolen from Trump. And mind you, I did vote Republicans in down ticket in the past few years while voting Democrats in most races (this year my state Senator was uncontested but I wrote in my father to get rid of an incumbent.)
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Old 12-19-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I am frightened for my country. We are beset by enemies at home and abroad. Trump and his Republican toadies are working to destroy democracy by overturning a presidential election. Hundreds of Republican elected officials have signed on to the effort.

The Russians are attacking our government communications by hacking government agencies.
Did you whine when Russia, China and others hacked systems during previous administrations? Like when China hacked in 2015, under Obama, and that hack personally affected almost 22 million lives? That is not the only hack or the only country that hacked us under Obama, other hacks happened that also affected millions of lives.

Other countries hack other countries, we hack other countries. Stop thinking it's only Russia that hacks. This hack could have been from Russia, China, Pakistan, etc. We, the people, aren't in on the loop yet so we don't know. Seems that if the media has to use anonymous sources then they don't know either and they're just guessing much like they did time and again with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
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An epidemic is destroying lives of millions of Americans,
It's a pandemic that is affecting the world. Stop trying to pretend you're more special than anyone else around the world.

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with over 20 million unemployed.
Thanks to the knee jerk shutdowns. And, Pelosi's refusal to aid those affected by the shutdowns 'because she wanted Trump to lose'.
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This is straight out of the old Soviet Union playbook. The time to destabilize a nation is during transitions of power. The aim is to break up the United States and turn it into a collection of small Balkanized countries.
Actually, this is the old Soviet Union playbook..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEijIFlob6c

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America was once the light of the world. We were the first nation ever to declare that we could rule ourselves without masters or overlords. It was known as "The Great Experiment," and changed the world for the better.

Now that experiment is on the verge of failure.
The left should stop trying to push this country into failure.
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Old 12-19-2020, 08:33 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Perhaps you should have thought of that years and years ago when half the nation started thinking socialism was so wonderful and voting them into office. Socialism is the gateway drug to communism. And since so many people roll their eyes to that word, I've been using a better descriptor for several years now: authoritarian collectivism. Taken to its extreme, the "Borg." So don't cry now that the assimilation process is nearly complete. Resistance is futile. We found that out this very election.
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Old 12-19-2020, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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From a serial Driveller.
I don't start topic just to inflame people and get reactions. This was clearly such a post. That makes it drivel.

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Perhaps talk of a "rigged election" should be given a rest until that talk can be supported by facts accepted as evidence by a court of law and not just by the 'court' of Tweety-birds?
Why? The Left has spent close to 5 years undermining Trump and confidence in his election. They carried out the charade so far as to impeach a president, setting a new low in abuse of power and lowering the bar for the next impeachment. Partisan impeachment will become the norm just like partisan, contentious SCOTUS nomination hearings have become the norm.

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This is also what happens when you defund cyber security. Remember this? August 22, 2019: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration is shifting $271 million earmarked for disaster aid and cyber security...
Well that was the claim by Roybal-Allard, but $155 million was to come from FEMA disaster funds and $116 million from the Coast Guard, which by my math adds up to $271 million. DHS only hadto shift funds around because the Democrats wouldn't properly fund ICE. The Democrats didn't want any illegal aliens detained. They wanted them all released into the country if they double dog, bomb-bomb no erasies, cross-my-heart promised to appear at their deportation hearing.

So how much funding did cyber security lose? What was their total budget? Was that up or down from previous budgets?

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A better phrase would have helped. "America First" was used by the KKK and the isolationist movement of the 1930's after it was taken over by anti-semites.
If Democrats put America First in trade policy, in NATO, in the UN, in any international accord, in immigration, especially illegal immigration, such a simple, clear slogan would not have been necessary. But the common man, who Democrats have abandoned, understood America was not being put first by politicians of either party, but especially the Democrats.

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We are dependent on our allies as they are on us.
You make it sound like an equal relationship. It isn't. Our allies in places like Japan, Europe and the Middle East supply land and ports for our bases and we supply the Blood & Treasure to keep them safe. Those in NATO, for example, had promised to pay in a certain amount and I think all of them were nowhere close to their commitments. That is the way it is in EVERY international organization, the UN, WHO, World Bank, etc. Trump made the right moves, however crudely, to make others "pay their fair share" (a favorite mantra of The Left, but only when applied to well off Americans).

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We are the only nation in NATO to have invoked Article 5 and now as we are under cyber attack we need a coordinated response with our allies.
Article 5 was invoked after 9-11, and properly so. We've seen that the War on Islamic Terrorism isn't just a U.S.problem, but a problem for the whole West.

But what the heck is France going to do to help the U.S. in cyber attacks? The U.S. needs support from Google, Apple, Microsoft, Cisco and the rest of the U.S. tech sector and so far, they are unwilling to provide all the support and help the U.S. needs.

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Typical deep thinking hater commentary. You posses the vocabulary to understand the OP so you reply with sophomoric snark.
I don't respond to topics solely designed to invoke reactions. That is why it is drivel and you know it is drivel.

PS I think you missed a word in your response.

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This was a little too over the top to be believable. No functioning, non-institutionalized, member of society really thinks like this.
That is all correct. That is the pattern for that poster to make responses that are ridiculous, evocative and outrageous. They are looking for the reactions they get.

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Perhaps you should have thought of that years and years ago when half the nation started thinking socialism was so wonderful and voting them into office. Socialism is the gateway drug to communism. And since so many people roll their eyes to that word, I've been using a better descriptor for several years now: authoritarian collectivism. Taken to its extreme, the "Borg." So don't cry now that the assimilation process is nearly complete. Resistance is futile. We found that out this very election.
Couldn't rep you again, so Yup.
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Old 12-19-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell View Post
I am frightened for my country. We are beset by enemies at home and abroad. Trump and his Republican toadies are working to destroy democracy by overturning a presidential election. Hundreds of Republican elected officials have signed on to the effort.

The Russians are attacking our government communications by hacking government agencies.

An epidemic is destroying lives of millions of Americans, with over 20 million unemployed.

This is straight out of the old Soviet Union playbook. The time to destabilize a nation is during transitions of power. The aim is to break up the United States and turn it into a collection of small Balkanized countries.

America was once the light of the world. We were the first nation ever to declare that we could rule ourselves without masters or overlords. It was known as "The Great Experiment," and changed the world for the better.

Now that experiment is on the verge of failure.
Just wait until Biden opens the borders, empties the jails, shackles the police, and redistributes trillions of dollars created from thin air to every deadbeat and loser in this country.
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Old 12-19-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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And the odds are overwhelmingly high we've been returning the 'favor'.
We sure have and in many countries. This is nothing new.
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Old 12-19-2020, 11:50 AM
 
Location: USA
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Don't worry, Biden will become President and he has an excellent advantage: Kamala Harris. You see, a first woman of color vice president will certainly be able to build back better with Joe as the United States focuses on social justice, a more equitable economy, lgbtqia+- rights, and environmental justice. I am confident that the USA will rejoin previous agreements and adhere to the norms and traditions that our country has enjoyed for centuries. Joe and Kamala will truly fight for the soul of America and that will make us stronger. Nothing but hope on the horizon!
Thanks for the laugh, sweetheart.
You'll learn one day.
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Old 12-19-2020, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I am frightened for my country. We are beset by enemies at home and abroad. Trump and his Republican toadies are working to destroy democracy by overturning a presidential election. Hundreds of Republican elected officials have signed on to the effort.
I'm curious, Larry. did you approve of the democrat politicians' witch hunt of trump for his entire administration to "overturn a presidential election" via Mueller investigation?

also, democrats marched en masse and rioted in many cities the day after trump won....before he even took office. I'm not sympathetic to your "fright".
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