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Old 12-23-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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The exact Moderna vaccine was made in January. As millions died world wide the FDA held up trials because people who were told the risks of participating in the challenge trials could have died or had other adverse side effects.

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So why was this vaccine delayed for a full year? Because the FDA prohibited rapid "challenge trials"—where volunteers take the vaccine and then expose themselves to the virus in a lab, rather than waiting agonizing months to see how many catch the virus "in the wild."
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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No, the Moderna vaccine has been fast tracked just like Pfizer. The Astra Zenica is being held up. Probably because it needs no refrigeration, and will be truly cheap to make and distribute.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:02 PM
 
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No, the Moderna vaccine has been fast tracked just like Pfizer. The Astra Zenica is being held up. Probably because it needs no refrigeration, and will be truly cheap to make and distribute.
"But perhaps more remarkable is that Moderna designed its vaccine in just two days in January, before some people had even heard of the coronavirus."

"So why was this vaccine delayed for a full year? Because the FDA prohibited rapid "challenge trials"—where volunteers take the vaccine and then expose themselves to the virus in a lab, rather than waiting agonizing months to see how many catch the virus "in the wild.""

Read my links.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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"But perhaps more remarkable is that Moderna designed its vaccine in just two days in January, before some people had even heard of the coronavirus."

"So why was this vaccine delayed for a full year? Because the FDA prohibited rapid "challenge trials"—where volunteers take the vaccine and then expose themselves to the virus in a lab, rather than waiting agonizing months to see how many catch the virus "in the wild.""
Designed is not tested and made.

"Challenge tests" for a virus for which there was concern for a lethality comparable to SARS or MERS might be challenging to recruit for, especially on a large scale. Those were done in non-human primates, though.

There are people who do not want to take the mRNA vaccines because they do not think they were tested enough.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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Yes from everything I have read, the pharmaceutical companies basically had a vaccine very quickly. It was a combination of regulations and also trials that held it up until now.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Designed is not tested and made.
The point is, with millions dying worldwide perhaps the FDA could have allowed challenge trials to willing participants so it could have been mas produced months ago.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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Yes from everything I have read, the pharmaceutical companies basically had a vaccine very quickly. It was a combination of regulations and also trials that held it up until now.

Yet the left was quick to remind everybody on this forum with about 8 new threads a day for the last 10 months that all the unnecessary deaths from COVID were Trumps fault. Makes sense.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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No, the Moderna vaccine has been fast tracked just like Pfizer. The Astra Zenica is being held up. Probably because it needs no refrigeration, and will be truly cheap to make and distribute.
Bingo! Not as much money in the drug companies who are funding the FDA.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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The point is, with millions dying worldwide perhaps the FDA could have allowed challenge trials to willing participants so it could have been mas produced months ago.
Do you really think that 40,000 people would volunteer for such a trial?
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Do you really think that 40,000 people would volunteer for such a trial?

You got about 20X's that number sitting on their azzes collecting generational welfare in this country. Let them step up and contribute for a change. They can then proudly say they served their country.
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