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Old 12-25-2020, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And yet people want to live in those "over taxed, over regulated," states instead of a state that thinks ketchup is the same as marinara sauce for spaghetti. People are free to choose, they leave over weather, jobs, retirement and cost of leaving , rarely politics or religion but anyone is free to move anywhere and they can take their baggage if they want to...

The snobbishness of phrases such as " a state that thinks ketchup is the same as marinara" is a good part of the reason Democrats no longer own the blue collar vote.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:13 PM
 
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The snobbishness of phrases such as " a state that thinks ketchup is the same as marinara" is a good part of the reason Democrats no longer own the blue collar vote.
And what makes it all the more obnoxious is the unearned snobbery at the root of it. The folks who typically talk like this are classic examples of people who think they're two steps ahead, when they're actually three steps behind.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:02 PM
 
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Georgia is already changing before everyone's very eyes. Georgia flipping blue was only a matter of time. People moving to Georgia have been a factor. Furthermore, people moving from other states has changed the demographics of Georgia.

Georgia (1990)
70% White
27% Black
1.2% Asian
1.7% Hispanic

Georgia (2019)
51.8% White
31.9% Black
4.1% Asian
9.8% Hispanic

Demographics are playing a bigger role in Georgia changing that Schumer thinks. A large Black population (close to 32%) along side rapidly increasing Hispanic and Asian populations is playing a big role. Whites migrating from other states is playing a role, this cannot be doubted. White migrants from other parts of the country do tend to vote Democrat in higher numbers relative to Georgia-born Whites. Blacks are also moving to Georgia from other states (including other southern states), and tend to support Democrats to the tune of 90%.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:30 PM
 
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Mississippi and West Virginia also lost population. One or both of these states might lose a US House seat due to population loss.

https://www.wvea.org/content/wva-no-1-population-loss

W.Va. No. 1 in population loss

West Virginia is one of two states whose population declined in the last decade, and the rate of population loss is faster than any other state in the nation, according to a recent study by Pew Charitable Trusts.

...one of the state's three congressional seats could be lost by 2022

https://mspolicy.org/mississippi-pop...eak-the-cycle/

Mississippi suffered its fourth population decline over the past five years in 2019
This is true. Those states are losing population. With the lost of population comes the loss of congressional seats. West Virginia has been losing population for decades. Between 2010 and now, West Virginia had the largest per capita drop in population, -3.7%. This is not limited to red states.

States that have lost population between 2010 and now:
West Virginia
Illinois
Connecticut
Vermont
New York
Mississippi

Both blue states and red states are losing population. States with the fastest growth rates include:

Utah
Texas
Idaho
Nevada
Arizona
Florida
Colorado
Washington
North Dakota
South Carolina

Red and blue states. It's important to look at every state piece by piece. Utah and Idaho are red states. So are Mississippi and West Virginia. The former are rapidly gaining population while the latter are losing population. It's important to understand WHY though. New York is a blue state. So is Washington state. Washington isn't being moved out of. It's important to understand WHY this is and how it will have implications in politics.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:30 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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So you think New York Senator Chuck Schumer's plan to " change America " to resemble his pride and joy of New York should include a set aside of Mississippi and West Virginia as the last two places the most desperate can flee to ?
But then where would people flee to after that ?
Right now? Probably Brazil. Maybe Singapore. Saudi Arabia.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:31 PM
 
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Right now? Probably Brazil. Maybe Singapore. Saudi Arabia.
Why those countries?
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Old 12-26-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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And yet people want to live in those "over taxed, over regulated," states instead of a state that thinks ketchup is the same as marinara sauce for spaghetti. People are free to choose, they leave over weather, jobs, retirement and cost of leaving , rarely politics or religion but anyone is free to move anywhere and they can take their baggage if they want to...
I'm sure you took your baggage from up north to Virginia. People live in those rat race areas because either they were born and raised there, roots and family or for work, no doubt good paying jobs. But people realize after sometime that its all relative. But for many who complain about high taxes, high costs, too many rules then move to an area without those issues and then vote in those who want to control everything is a fool. Just stay put in which many do anyway.
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Old 12-26-2020, 05:57 AM
 
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Mississippi and West Virginia also lost population. One or both of these states might lose a US House seat due to population loss.

https://www.wvea.org/content/wva-no-1-population-loss

W.Va. No. 1 in population loss

West Virginia is one of two states whose population declined in the last decade, and the rate of population loss is faster than any other state in the nation, according to a recent study by Pew Charitable Trusts.

...one of the state's three congressional seats could be lost by 2022

https://mspolicy.org/mississippi-pop...eak-the-cycle/

Mississippi suffered its fourth population decline over the past five years in 2019
Which is why one could take advantage of the situation and purchase several acres of land with a house for under hundred grand, even far less than that. WV never really recovered after the 2008 depression.
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Old 12-26-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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There are parts of WV that border Northern VA. Over the last couple of decades, new housing developments have cropped up in those parts of WV. Many people from Northern VA have sold their homes and bought bigger, cheaper homes in WV. They live in WV and commute to jobs in Northern VA. Despite that, I'm pleased to see that the newcomers haven't turned WV blue.
True, a bit west and north of Winchester VA. I owned a couple of houses and properties between Romney WV and Cumberland, Md.. Born and raised in Washington.
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Old 12-26-2020, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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I'm sure you took your baggage from up north to Virginia. People live in those rat race areas because either they were born and raised there, roots and family or for work, no doubt good paying jobs. But people realize after sometime that its all relative. But for many who complain about high taxes, high costs, too many rules then move to an area without those issues and then vote in those who want to control everything is a fool. Just stay put in which many do anyway.
Garbage, it doesn't matter what tax rate you are paying people are complaining. Where I am now the tax rate is low the services ,schools and infrastructure are all excellent and people complain. It often seems that those who complain the most are the ones are the old timers who don't want to have to pay with anything including schools because they are done with them. People relocate to the area because of work not taxes, not political ideology that's just another myth the right likes to circulate as they make it sound like an invasion of "those people". Many like living in an urban environment and to them its not a rat race just as others like a more rural setting that's their choice.

Using Virginia as an example the voting patterns have changed for 2 reasons, 1 is changes in the demographics that's just the way it is but a bigger factor is the GOP has gone off the right hand scale with the T-Party and their ideologies. When the party won't hold a primary and picks extreme right wing candidates people are going Democrat, not Left-wing but picking the candidate that's not T-Party, not 2A as their main position, not people like Trump. If the party wants to regain control they need to start representing the bulk of the voters and stop allowing the fringes to be their mouth piece.

But according to you everyone who moves to a location should go along with the local norms and not think for themselves, not going to happen....
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