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Old 12-30-2020, 07:09 PM
 
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Yes, I do. Every adult should decide what is just and what is not. And governments don't have the right to tell adults what is just.

We have a moral obligation to resist unjust laws. Just like our forefathers did in 1776, then again when they overturned slavery.

LOL.That's not how it works. That's now how any of this works.


Jeebus.

https://youtu.be/Aq_1l316ow8
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Old 12-30-2020, 07:13 PM
 
Location: southern california
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To the criminal every law is unjust
For the rest the laws are for others to obey
They all agree that there is excessive police action and presence

Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 12-30-2020 at 07:33 PM..
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Old 12-30-2020, 07:33 PM
 
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To the criminal every law is unjust
For the rest the laws are for others to obey
As long it is constitutional and doesn’t violate any rights.
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Old 12-30-2020, 09:13 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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This is true. Look at this page. Heroes are speaking out all over the country;
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From coast to coast, businesses and individuals are ignoring restrictive rules that threaten their livelihoods, stifle social contact, and threaten to strangle the necessary interactions of everyday life.

"Another shutdown just isn't an option for us," the Seven Sirens Brewing Company of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, announced last week on its Facebook page. "We, and thousands of other small businesses throughout the country simply will not survive. […] After speaking with our bank, staff members, families, attorneys, and local government officials…we have decided we will not comply with future shutdown mandates. We will continue to operate with the same, proven-safe measures we implemented 5 months ago."

The brewery is only one of many businesses listed by Pennsylvania Opening Businesses/Defying the Governor, which has over 43,000 members on Facebook as I write. The group encourages the public the patronize anybody who bucks state rules to continue offering goods and services to willing customers.

https://reason.com/2020/12/16/americ...UOLM5NdTBlYzWA
I've been searching and searching for sites like this, hoping to contribute. Love to see it.

And I'm going to link to a post I made in another thread. A fund created for small businesses denied reopening. The donations now total over $11 million, with over 90,000 supporters.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/59979677-post1771.html

Hopefully word will get out more and more on different ways to help, and exactly who needs it.
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Old 12-30-2020, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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My state closed all indoor dining in November. Nonetheless, nearly every independently- own suburban restaurant is open for business a few are promoting NYE packages.parking lots are full during prime time dining hours. None are hiding they are open.

No one is enforcing the order.

I have lost track of the number of otherwise fit and healthy. people I know who have been infected and hospitalized. These are 40-50 year olds once stabilized they are discharged to recuperate at homes weeks later they are weak and exhausted, sleeping 12-16 hours a day. Most did not take Covid seriously until it happened to them.
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Old 12-30-2020, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL.That's not how it works. That's now how any of this works.


Jeebus.

https://youtu.be/Aq_1l316ow8
I bet you had no problem with the BLM and antifa protests and riots which violated social distancing, stay at home and many other orders. For you it was a noble cause and thus justified in breaking health protocols.

But for a small business who you hate for being bourgeois must be punished for any infraction and must not protest because it isnt what you consider a noble cause.
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Old 12-30-2020, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The American Revolution was almost derailed by a highly contagious virus- small pox, spread primarily through airborne respiratory droplets, upon exhalation.

George Washington imposed very controversial quarantines and isolation of troops. Of course back then, no one equated freedom with a right to have a beer at the local watering hole.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...-inoculations/
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Old 12-31-2020, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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As long it is constitutional and doesn’t violate any rights.
Slavery was constitutional.
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Old 12-31-2020, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I have lost track of the number of otherwise fit and healthy. people I know who have been infected and hospitalized.
That is interesting. I know of only one person who has been infected and they recovered in 10 days. No hospital needed.
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Old 12-31-2020, 06:22 AM
 
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Slavery was constitutional.
Which was changed and became unconstitutional, I don’t believe forcing people’s livelihood to close is constitutional.
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