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Old 12-28-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
it is still not Pence (the person) being sued




it is actually the government being sued, for a "final" definition of "Authorized to pick"




I don't really care what "link' you post of some "journalists" spin on a explanation
Gohmert’s suit alleges that any action taken by Pence on Jan. 6 to formally declare Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election will be fraudulent.

Nitpick all you want. Do you agree with Gohmert's lawsuit?
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Gohmert’s suit alleges that any action taken by Pence on Jan. 6 to formally declare Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election will be fraudulent.

Nitpick all you want. Do you agree with Gohmert's lawsuit?
do I agree with Gohmert…..no...NO


do I think he needs to sue the government for a KNOWN definition that the VP is the one who will declare whom ever the victor of an election.... again NO...he is asking for a ruling on a known and understood (and enforced) law




the point is that the OP's title...based on a twitter post (and also your local news link), wrongfully state the "pence is being sued"... when the fact is that the government is being sued, based on the role of the VP (as the Presiding Officer of the Senate)….so in essence what is being 'challenged' is article 1, section 3, clause 4 of the constitution...…….. its a no winner
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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do I agree with Gohmert…..no...NO

do I think he needs to sue the government for a KNOWN definition that the VP is the one who will declare whom ever the victor of an election.... again NO...he is asking for a ruling on a known and understood (and enforced) law

the point is that the OP's title...based on a twitter post (and also your local news link), wrongfully state the "pence is being sued"... when the fact is that the government is being sued, based on the role of the VP (as the Presiding Officer of the Senate)….so in essence what is being 'challenged' is article 1, section 3, clause 4 of the constitution...…….. its a no winner
Here's the actual complaint which lists Mike Pence as the DEFENDANT. https://electioncases.osu.edu/wp-con...rt-v-Pence.pdf

Still sticking to your guns that Pence isn't being sued?
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Here's the actual complaint which lists Mike Pence as the DEFENDANT. https://electioncases.osu.edu/wp-con...rt-v-Pence.pdf

Still sticking to your guns that Pence isn't being sued?
This has turned out to be a tough thread for the cultists.
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:26 AM
 
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hey OP

how is it that the twit(ter) thinks that asking a judge to say the Pence is authorized to pick electors, equals out to Pence being sued?
Maybe because it lists Mike Pence as the defendant?
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Maybe because it lists Mike Pence as the defendant?
actually it lists the VP (in his/her official capacity) as the defendant...… could be anyone including incoming VP Harris....




so the FACT REMAINS that this is NOT a suit against the PERSON of Pence...but about his official role (as per the constitution


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Accordingly, Plaintiffs respectfully request this Court to issue a declaratory judgment finding that:


A. Sections 5 and 15 of the Electoral Count Act, 3 U.S.C. §§ 5 and 15, are unconstitutional because they violate the Twelfth Amendment, U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1, cl. 1 & amend. XII on the face of it; and further violate the Electors Clause;


B. That Vice-President Pence, in his capacity as President of Senate and Presiding Officer of the January 6, 2021 Joint Session of Congress under the Twelfth Amendment, is subject solely to the requirements of the Twelfth Amendment and may exercise the exclusive authority and sole discretion in determining which electoral votes to count for a given State, and must ignore and may not rely on any provisions of the Electoral Count Act that would limit his exclusive authority and his sole discretion to determine the count, which could include votes from the slates of Republican electors from the Contested States; Case 6:20-cv-00660 Document 1 Filed 12/27/20 Page 4 of 28 PageID #: 4


The Defendant is named in his official capacity as the Vice President of the United States. The declaratory and injunctive relief requested herein applies to his duties as President of the Senate and Presiding Officer at the January 6, 2021 Joint Session of Congress carried out pursuant to the Electoral Count Act and the Twelfth Amendment



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Old 12-28-2020, 11:30 AM
 
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bunch of bird brained republicans.
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:33 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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I can't remember any 2 months in politics that turned out to be this hilarious...every time when I think may be this is the peak of this - next day makes a claim and says No it isn't
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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"NEW: VP Pence has been sued by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), Kelli Ward and other GOP mbrs in a far-fetched bid to overturn Biden's win

Plaintiffs ask Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump-appt'd fed judge in Texas, to find that Pence is authorized to pick pro-Trump electors on Jan. 6"

Link: https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/statu...90550960820227
Chemtrails Kelli should just go away. I cannot take Arizona Republicans that serious with her. She is nothing but a nutter.
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This is hilarious!
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