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Old 01-04-2021, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Read this article in the Atlantic or at least, scroll down to the last paragraph, which tells it like it is. The author proposes that these republicans be shunned from all public forums, for their acts of what can very well, be called sedition. The 140 representatives and about 10 in the Senate, have joined to try to draw out the last struggles of a tyrant, a little bit longer. They have disgraced themselves and should never be taken seriously again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...reason/617538/
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Old 01-05-2021, 06:11 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Is that what happened with these 31 congresspersons in 2005?
  • Brown, Corrine
  • Carson
  • Clay
  • Clyburn
  • Conyers
  • Davis (IL)
  • Evans
  • Farr
  • Filner
  • Grijalva
  • Hastings (FL)
  • Hinchey
  • Jackson (IL)
  • Jackson-Lee (TX)
  • Johnson, E. B.
  • Jones (OH)
  • Kilpatrick (MI)
  • Kucinich
  • Lee
  • Lewis (GA)
  • Markey
  • McKinney
  • Olver
  • Owens
  • Pallone
  • Payne
  • Schakowsky
  • Thompson (MS)
  • Waters
  • Watson
  • Woolsey
Because they, along with Senator Barbara Boxer, did the same thing.

Quotes from the time:
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"Some may criticize our colleague from California for bringing us here for this brief debate. I thank her for doing that because it gives members an opportunity once again on a bipartisan basis to look at a challenge that we face not just in the last election in one State but in many States."
Senator Dick Durban, D-IL
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"I believe that Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH) have performed a very valuable public service in bringing this debate before the Congress. As Americans, we should all be troubled by reports of voting problems in many parts of the country. I have been particularly concerned about the lack of a verifiable paper record in connection with electronic voting systems. I am proud to be a co-sponsor of legislation to solve that problem."
Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md
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Old 01-05-2021, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Damn, it only took one post.

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Old 01-05-2021, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1 View Post
Is that what happened with these 31 congresspersons in 2005?
  • Brown, Corrine
  • Carson
  • Clay
  • Clyburn
  • Conyers
  • Davis (IL)
  • Evans
  • Farr
  • Filner
  • Grijalva
  • Hastings (FL)
  • Hinchey
  • Jackson (IL)
  • Jackson-Lee (TX)
  • Johnson, E. B.
  • Jones (OH)
  • Kilpatrick (MI)
  • Kucinich
  • Lee
  • Lewis (GA)
  • Markey
  • McKinney
  • Olver
  • Owens
  • Pallone
  • Payne
  • Schakowsky
  • Thompson (MS)
  • Waters
  • Watson
  • Woolsey
Because they, along with Senator Barbara Boxer, did the same thing.

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Oh, one loves the equivalent of a forum comment smack down. Thank you!!!
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Old 01-05-2021, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1 View Post
Is that what happened with these 31 congresspersons in 2005?
  • Brown, Corrine
  • Carson
  • Clay
  • Clyburn
  • Conyers
  • Davis (IL)
  • Evans
  • Farr
  • Filner
  • Grijalva
  • Hastings (FL)
  • Hinchey
  • Jackson (IL)
  • Jackson-Lee (TX)
  • Johnson, E. B.
  • Jones (OH)
  • Kilpatrick (MI)
  • Kucinich
  • Lee
  • Lewis (GA)
  • Markey
  • McKinney
  • Olver
  • Owens
  • Pallone
  • Payne
  • Schakowsky
  • Thompson (MS)
  • Waters
  • Watson
  • Woolsey
Because they, along with Senator Barbara Boxer, did the same thing.

Quotes from the time:
My best guess is that OP is a young progressive who isn’t as well-versed on American political history as he thinks.

Excellent rebuttal, Hag. The facts make the case without uttering a single word.
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Old 01-05-2021, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Originally Posted by Steve McDonald View Post
Read this article in the Atlantic or at least, scroll down to the last paragraph, which tells it like it is. The author proposes that these republicans be shunned from all public forums, for their acts of what can very well, be called sedition. The 140 representatives and about 10 in the Senate, have joined to try to draw out the last struggles of a tyrant, a little bit longer. They have disgraced themselves and should never be taken seriously again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...reason/617538/
I read that article in The Atlantic yesterday, I think it was, and sent it to people I know. I thought it was such a spectacular editorial. Lol, after reading the article, a friend of mine posted on his timeline stating that Trump should face the harshest penalties for treason and the poor guy got put into FB jail!!!
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Old 01-05-2021, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The definition of treason focuses on a specific enemy, SEDITION is what we are seeing.
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Old 01-05-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Ah the good old days.. you know when someone could have their own opinion even if it was in opposition to the popular mantra. It was called debate, editorials, a reason to talk but still part as friends but today not so much.

It seems that if you speak out against the Lefty narrative they will attempt to crush you, shame you and destroy your life.



The elected that are opposing the stolen election are the brave ones yet History will cast them as cultish Trump sycophants. We are in for a world of trouble when half of the country doesn't even care to get to the bottom of the fraud but if all the back door dealings favored Trump America would literally be burning.



The powers that be investigated a rope on a NASCAR garage door more seriously than claims of fraud in the 2020 election. We are lost.
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Old 01-05-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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How exactly is it a defense to say "the other side did it too"? It's not a defense. You're telling on yourselves. It's quite the false equivalency, however.

Also, if you read the article, you'd know that, at the times of these objections, Kerry had long since conceded. Clinton too, of course. When someone tried this nonsense in 2017, the Vice President presiding over the roll call said "It is over".

That was Biden putting an end to the objection in 2017, btw.
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Old 01-05-2021, 12:31 PM
 
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The entire left has been practicing sedition for the last 4 years. So now, all of a sudden, sedition is wrong?

God, I hate Democrats.
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