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Old 01-14-2021, 04:48 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I'd already thought anyone would have to be incredibly naive and simple-minded to think imagine that Trump deserves credit for the "warp" speed of the vaccines. Any president would have done the same, or more, and the money and glory is enough incentive for the scientists and the manufacturers.

But this is even more true now that we hear how the effort to get people vaccinated is faltering. There are problems even with something as basic as shipping. It's even clearer now that Trump did nothing in terms of a coherent plan or strategy, created no nationwide push, could not rouse people to fall in with the program. The pharmaceutical companies had a built-in incentive. The distributors don't. And Trump did nothing to motivate or inspire them.
Ok.

Well let's see if your posting changes next week when someone else is in charge.

Just what do you think Biden will do ? Say "Faster boys" and the vials will magically appear in cities all over the US ?
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Old 01-14-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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lol.....too bad they don't have a dumb vaccine......... warp speed has to do with developing a vaccine and mass producing it......Governors job to inoculate. some people should read the news and stay informed.
I reckon you didn't read the news when this was headlines.

where-are-our-doses-governors-outraged-at-white-house-for-unexplained-cuts-in-covid-19-vaccine-doses/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=11fd2de64179
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Old 01-14-2021, 04:50 PM
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So you think the president's job is to personally plan the logistics of a vaccine roll out? Seriously??? Do you not understand that there are real experts who handle the finer details and planning of this type of stuff?

It's pretty obvious that you just want to blame the president for everything possible, while selectively denying him credit for anything good that happens at the same time. That makes you a shameless and unapologetic partisan hack.


You must get your "information" from CNN, which said Trump would fail in his ambitions of having a vaccine available by now. Basically preemptively blaming the president for a failure before it happened. It's like they were rooting for the China virus to win.
Yeah. States have responsibility and they have delegated it to counties. Lots of problems in Democratic run counties.
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Old 01-14-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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Dems said there wouldn't be a vaccine until April-June 2021, mocking Trump's statements about a vaccine before the end of 2020. They said Trump was contradicting the experts when he said this. We'd still be waiting 4-6 months more if Dems had their way.
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Old 01-14-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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State health departments are supposed to manage that. They've certainly had enough time to prepare.

Stop voting for incompetents. Hold your state agencies accountable.



BTW - My state is doing well.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
I'd already thought anyone would have to be incredibly naive and simple-minded to think imagine that Trump deserves credit for the "warp" speed of the vaccines. Any president would have done the same, or more, and the money and glory is enough incentive for the scientists and the manufacturers.

But this is even more true now that we hear how the effort to get people vaccinated is faltering. There are problems even with something as basic as shipping. It's even clearer now that Trump did nothing in terms of a coherent plan or strategy, created no nationwide push, could not rouse people to fall in with the program. The pharmaceutical companies had a built-in incentive. The distributors don't. And Trump did nothing to motivate or inspire them.
Just when you think you can't see a more ludicrous post on CD and then this happens
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Old 01-15-2021, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It gets worse...much worse. There is no supply of the vaccine being held in reserve, "Vaccine reserve was already exhausted when Trump administration vowed to release it, dashing hopes of expanded access"

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States were anticipating a windfall after federal officials said they would stop holding back second doses. But the approach had already changed, and no stockpile exists. When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed, according to state and federal officials briefed on distribution plans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...serve-used-up/
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Old 01-15-2021, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It has more to do with people becoming more and more skeptical of these new and rushed mRNA vaccines.
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Old 01-15-2021, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
I'd already thought anyone would have to be incredibly naive and simple-minded to think imagine that Trump deserves credit for the "warp" speed of the vaccines. Any president would have done the same, or more, and the money and glory is enough incentive for the scientists and the manufacturers.

But this is even more true now that we hear how the effort to get people vaccinated is faltering. There are problems even with something as basic as shipping. It's even clearer now that Trump did nothing in terms of a coherent plan or strategy, created no nationwide push, could not rouse people to fall in with the program. The pharmaceutical companies had a built-in incentive. The distributors don't. And Trump did nothing to motivate or inspire them.
This is sad, you Trump-haters think Trump is supposed micro manage how the vaccines are shipped???? Good grief.
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Old 01-15-2021, 12:13 PM
 
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So you think the president's job is to personally plan the logistics of a vaccine roll out? Seriously??? Do you not understand that there are real experts who handle the finer details and planning of this type of stuff?

It's pretty obvious that you just want to blame the president for everything possible, while selectively denying him credit for anything good that happens at the same time. That makes you a shameless and unapologetic partisan hack.


You must get your "information" from CNN, which said Trump would fail in his ambitions of having a vaccine available by now. Basically preemptively blaming the president for a failure before it happened. It's like they were rooting for the China virus to win.
Trump claimed he was ready to have millions vaccinated and he had put in all the systems.

You can't make that up and you can't dismiss that.

No -- none of us give Trump credit for developing or distributing the vaccine...but that's the sad part --he should have been on top of the distribution all along -- not the development...despite his 'natural' talent for that kind of thing -- lol.
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