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No. Mitch has always been a Never Trumper. The senate was very unlikeable after telling everyone in this country, "the best we can do is $600" while they sent billions to other countries.
The people in GA voted for a stimulus check.
I agree. This was the death knell for Purdue and Loeffler. Biden was there promising 2,000 stimulus checks if people voted Democrat, and it achieved the desired results.
McConnell was a fool to choose that hill to die on and should have just approved the increased amount. Largesse to foreign countries while skimping on American citizens is sickening.
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McConnell does not give an inch to any matter that is not in his view. He could have meet in the middle and I think most Americans would approve of a 1200 1500 check over a paltry 600 bucks.
Its was all about saving face for this multi millionaire. Now we are at a American where its free lunch time costing way more than if he had given something more than 600 bucks.
I thought your gulags and re-education camps crack was satire.
Apparently not.
Not hardly, Commissar Ocasio-Cortez and others have stated that anyone involved with the current administration or supported them financially should be held complicit for their actions.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Tweeted this on November 6th.
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future."
I wonder who helped her use the word sycophant? Is this really what Americans voted for? I didn't serve thirty years in the military to see our republic decline into a totalitarian banana republic where dissidents are locked up as political prisoners.
The blue wave is here and cannot be stopped. Democrats have control of the Senate now. Finally some positive progress coming for the country. What are you looking forward to most under this new era of a blue wave?
It sure looks like Georgia has gone blue and McConnell is history. I do not like to see one party in control of everything, but we saw how bad it was under Republican control. My hope is that the Senate will no longer be a bill graveyard and that the priority to stack the courts is over.
The political pendulum swings in both directions. It's just the Democrats turn now. We have to wait and see what happens. Ideally, I'd like to see this ridiculous tribalism come to and end and for we the people to vote for either candidate if they're good for the country. Both sides have good ideas and we should vote for both sides to work together.
It sure looks like Georgia has gone blue and McConnell is history. I do not like to see one party in control of everything, but we saw how bad it was under Republican control. My hope is that the Senate will no longer be a bill graveyard and that the priority to stack the courts is over.
The political pendulum swings in both directions. It's just the Democrats turn now. We have to wait and see what happens. Ideally, I'd like to see this ridiculous tribalism come to and end and for we the people to vote for either candidate if they're good for the country. Both sides have good ideas and we should vote for both sides to work together.
For sure we don't know how long it will last. Ds were doing the same talk about total control and the end of the R party in 2008, lasted a whole 2 years.
Don't worry. The Democrats will figure out a way to screw it up with a "compromise" with the losers on the republican side. They don't learn. Give the people real money and universal healthcare and end Covid.
I agree. This was the death knell for Purdue and Loeffler. Biden was there promising 2,000 stimulus checks if people voted Democrat, and it achieved the desired results.
McConnell was a fool to choose that hill to die on and should have just approved the increased amount. Largesse to foreign countries while skimping on American citizens is sickening.
With just McConnell not being a bought and paid for pos, they would have won.
But...make no mistake, a lot of people who call themselves "Republicans", didn't vote at all. You can tell by the numbers that they didn't go out to vote for either one of them.
A couple of reasons for that:
The idiotic Q larper morons who "trust the plan" and listened to the ravings of a lunatic like Lin Wood who told them NOT to vote for Loeffler or Perdue. It was all "part of the plan".
Everyone else who didn't vote was because we had 2 months watching the Dems in the Republican party not back Trump. I believe the presidential election was totally stolen, but I do NOT believe that this run off was. The Republican party has themselves to blame for it:
Way too many of them did not support Trump, the SoS of fricken GA, a Republican, Raffensperger also did not support Trump - we all heard that phone call, he was completely unwilling to even consider that there might have been fraud and said "we did an investigation and found nothing" yet published NO report anywhere, provided zero evidence to anyone - so nothing changed in the process. Things were happening last night exactly as they happened on Nov 3rd.
However, the numbers weren't enough for there to be any landslide victory - because the "base" said, "Screw all of these Republicans, they are just as bad as the Democrats".
Loeffle shot herself in the foot during a debate when she refused to say if she was supporting Trump on his "stop the steal" attempts. She gave a lame, corporate board room answer that said nothing.
Why would I vote for her? (I don't live in GA, but I would not have voted for her.)
Some on the right are finally realizing that this type of person is just going to give you more of the same lame pos RINOs in the Republican party who don't have any fire, who will not fight for them, and will be bought and paid for - plus the fact that Kemp pushed her towards Trump when Trump wanted someone else...welp, you can't be surprised she lost.
So, add up everything that these idiots have done....or, rather, NOT done for the very people who voted them in, they aren't all that fired up to get up and go vote for 2 people they aren't all that thrilled about.
On the other side, you have people who are pi$$ed that they didn't get a $2000 stimulus check, you have the Dems out there saying, "Vote for us, we'll give you the money" - of course they're going to win.
BUT, the Dems would never have had that to use if the RINOs were not phonies and were actually Republicans.
Yes, Mitch, it is expensive, but how about now? Now how expensive are things going to be? Moron.
I like the question of what this means for regular working folks...what does all of this mean for the future of America?
I don't actually see "policy" changing in extreme ways. Biden is going to be motivated to take us back to what was "normal" before. There will be stimulus money coming, and more unified messaging on the pandemic. He's going to have a ton of work ahead of him dismantling many of the things that Trump was doing, from getting certain regs back in place to protect the environment and national parks from exploitation and damage, to foreign relations work. I'll say this...while Republicans were always known as the war hawks, what with the Bushes' oil crusades and all that, the Democrats have always been just as invested in foreign interventions, they're just sneakier about it. I expect a return to that. I'm a data analyst and I've crunched decades of tax code and discovered that in fact, no matter who is in charge, the middle class pays a slowly upward creeping amount of taxes every year. I don't expect that to change. Other than reversing Trump's cuts for the very wealthy, I don't expect Biden to "tax the rich" (or big business) a whole lot more than pre-Trump. He has backers to answer to, after all. Extreme progressive lefty things like UBI and a Green New Deal (as envisioned by AOC) or Universal Healthcare, to say nothing of "defunding" police...not bloody likely. I do hope that a free run in community college or trade school might be considered. That, in my opinion, is just expanding what education is available to every American for free (public education) to try and make our workforce more competitive compared to people from other countries.
THAT last bit... You know, you can become a welder at the local community college here. Associate's and certifications. If that sort of thing is free for anyone, then that helps young Americans get a trade, become competitive and employable, and contribute to improving our nation's infrastructure. And we've got to face it, young Americans need some help and some hope, or the "baby bust" is going to continue and get worse, and eventually sink our GDP along with it.
I think that the most significant things that we MIGHT see that would affect typical Americans... More legal cannabis, hopefully more industrial hemp, relaxing of the drug war and perhaps more states legalizing mushrooms, a shift to treatment rather than incarceration for drugs. Free education to a certain limit, probably only an Associate's, likely limited to community colleges or maybe state ones. Possible student loan forgiveness but likely limited, I expect up to $10k.
As for immigration? I'm not sure. I don't actually expect Biden to eliminate some of the very objectionable practices that in fact originated under Obama. You'll see liberals stop screaming about kids in cages once they can't be mad at Trump for it, even if it's still going on, I bet. But working immigrants who had Visas and "Dreamers" and such...yeah, I think that many who were in Trump's crosshairs won't be anymore. Efforts to build the wall will probably stop, but I'm really not sure how refugees at the border can expect to be treated. Time will tell on that, I only hope that reporting on the matter will be accurate.
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