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There really isn't one. One solution would be for "we the people" to band together and make a stand at the next election. Vote the current crop of asshats (both sides) out and start fresh. That will never happen though.
Voting doesn't matter now. The whole election process is a farce.
OP is basically telling people to live like the Amish and seclude themselves from the majority of the country.
Sounds good on paper but is totally impractical for the average Joe, especially when it comes to building careers.
BTW, City Data IS a social media website. Don't let the anonymity fool you. This website isn't that much different from Facebook and Twitter, albeit you can argue there's slightly less censorship.
OP is basically telling people to live like the Amish and seclude themselves from the majority of the country.
Sounds good on paper but is totally impractical for the average Joe, especially when it comes to building careers.
BTW, City Data IS a social media website. Don't let the anonymity fool you. This website isn't that much different from Facebook and Twitter, albeit you can argue there's slightly less censorship.
Might not have a choice as this economic system is completely and utterly unsustainable and a total SCAM; the elites and Central Bankers know this. This is why they are pushing their insidious "Great Reset" propaganda.
"The past is the present."
Why have the economic policies been largely the same for the past several decades regardless if the President is a Republican or Democrat?
There really isn't one. One solution would be for "we the people" to band together and make a stand at the next election. Vote the current crop of asshats (both sides) out and start fresh. That will never happen though.
Thing is, we have tried this. We know how that turned out. Someone said they did didn't think passive resistance worked ... I am not so sure about that. But it does require a lot of people to do it. The suggestion of pulling kids from public school is a good one, as the pandemic has demonstrated they aren't essential. Watch what happens if public school enrollment dropped oh say 30% in a year. You might even find your local taxes decreased, as they won't need so much money for public education.
This is how I see the individuals who stormed the capitol. Shoot first, ask questions later kind of mentality. Same as the riots of this past summer. Shoot first, ask questions later. Individuals who are angry because they couldn't get what they wanted, and now they are willing to take it to war. Trump lost, time to get over it. Anyone who feels differently, that is just too bad. Throwing a temper tantrum didn't reverse the results.
I didn't storm the capital. And I didn't storm dozens of city's federal buildings last summer. And this thread is not about trump. No mention was made of Trump and there is no point of worrying about him any longer. He won't be in the driver's seat for long.
That being the case, this thread was intended as a thread to kick around ideas of basically how to disconnect from the socialist state that is obviously coming. I know it's nearly unfathomable to you, but there are those who have no interest in living in a socialist state, welfare state, listening to bilge twenty-four hours a day about race and gender, changing the very language we speak, and having the government basically as an authoritarian collectivist monarchy.
So, there is no need to go on about the typical stuff that we go on about. Please leave your accusations of racism, sexism, bigotry, etc, for other threads. The intent here is how do the rest of us disconnect ourselves from you guys without us killing one another. I know you don't want us to disconnect from you, but you won't always get everything you want and things will not always be as you wish them to be.
You regroup and take another shot (figuratively, not literally) at the House in 2022 as a first step. Remember that the Democrats expected to gain a bunch of seats and actually lost 8.
I keep hearing conflicting reports about the Democrats not allowing republican monitors in to check the ballot counting. I don’t know if that’s true or not. However, with all the talk about voter fraud, I’d make certain both parties are present for the count. If one side doesn’t allow the other in, they should force their way in and either demand to be present or stop the counting until they’re allowed to observe.
This is how I see the individuals who stormed the capitol. Shoot first, ask questions later kind of mentality. Same as the riots of this past summer. Shoot first, ask questions later. Individuals who are angry because they couldn't get what they wanted, and now they are willing to take it to war. Trump lost, time to get over it. Anyone who feels differently, that is just too bad. Throwing a temper tantrum didn't reverse the results.
Well said. Both sides had idiots. It doesn’t mean all of Democrats or Republicans are the same.
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Run better candidates.
If Biden, Hillary and Trump are our best and brightest, people storming the capital are the least of our worries.
At a national level, it wouldn't matter if we ran Jesus Christ or Albert Einstein. National elections are auto-left for at least the next fifty to ninety years.
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That self-imploded a bit, didn't it?
Not sure what you're getting at.
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For the last 20 years, the left has bullied and mocked conservatives of all colors, calling us despicable, deplorable, racist, bigoted, ignorant, stupid, liars, you didn't build that, etc. They just don't think it, they preach it loud and constantly.
I'm done.
I'd like to see a non-violent secession.
I agree. If I could snap my fingers with omnipotent powers, the US would be at least five different sovereign nations, which could then loosely associate as they saw fit (similar to the original Articles of Confederation idea. Unfortunately, I'm beginning to feel that Hamilton got it wrong).
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OP everything your writing is placing a blame on leftists, what I saw yesterday was the Radical Right and all the groups and hate that follow that ideology attacking our Capital and our Democracy. Your writing is right wing and anything but unifying but you feel free to leave society move into your bunker and start eating your stash of MRE's as you wait it out.
Let the bulk of us who live in the regular world find a balance that is right for us because no one side is always right and we have the choice to pick and choose what we feel is right just as you have a right to mourn your fearless leader as he leaves in disgrace.
Not placing blame on anyone besides those who wish to force others into their way of thinking and governance. That includes anyone doing so on the right or left.
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We don't "work" around this. Democrat and Republican are two incompatible world views.
One side or the other is going to dominate eventually and establish de facto one-party rule in the United States. I'm not saying this will happen overnight. But years from now, probably.
This is exactly what is happening. I'm just kicking around ideas that may avoid it. The biggest problem with what I'm thinking about in this thread is that the left, by definition, are champions of a mandated collectivist society. Therein lies the problem for anyone who wishes to not be a part of that. The left sees no reason to allow anyone to "withdraw consent." On the other hand, in my more libertarian point of view, I don't want to entrap anyone. Do as you wish. Just leave me and anyone else who does not want to be a part of it OUT of it. Unfortunately since about 1920, we've all been conditioned into thinking as collectivists and not seeing the problem of forcing everyone into that collective. At least most of us.
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Oh lordy Chris. Your hate is showing and that's the biggest problem.
You folks still don't get it. And no matter how many of the nine thousand ways I can explain it, you never will get it. But, one more time (I ought to copy and past this so I don't have to keep rewriting it):
(note that I'm speaking for myself, but I know I'm not alone)
I do not hate YOU. I hate your social philosophy. I want you folks to do exactly as you wish AMONGST YOURSELVES. I would love to see you all happy, if that is possible. The only thing I ask in return is that you leave those who do not wish to be part of your collectivist Utopia OUT of it. Unfortunately that seems to be too much to ask. And that's the part I hate.
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Voting doesn't matter now. The whole election process is a farce.
It is on a national level. But as long as states still wield a bit of power, the states decide how far right or left they wish to go. And they do that to an extent right now--i.e. California as compared to Wyoming.
Sit back and enjoy the fall. There's not much that can be done, and any attempt to do anything adds fuel to fire. By even focusing on it you give it energy.
The best thing to do is life your life normally, and when some authoritarian policy is introduced, you don't fight it or start a revolution, you simply ignore it. They ban assault rifles? You ignore the ban. They make you wear masks past June 1 2021. You take them off and say nothing more about it. Passive resistance by ignoring their orders.
If enough people did this, they could make change. .
I definitely agree with this. I will never honor Leftist "laws".
I do hope some Red states start to secede in the near future. I know that is a tough proposition, but this country has gone so completely wacko Leftist/Marxist in the last decade that maybe, just maybe, it will happen with the right leadership in said states and a population that has reached its breaking point.
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