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Some cases were not heard because courts said the plaintiff had no "standing." Texas can't complain about PA, MI, etc. Other cases were not heard because courts claimed the "Doctine of Laches." The suits were brought too late.
Scholars smarter than any of us here argue about those decisions.
There is interesting debate about why the Supreme Court refused to hear a case. Bottom line on that is both sides will remember and a pall of doubt had been cast in the SCOTUS. That doesn't bother some now, but it likely will in the future
This premise is a lie
There is nothing to debate
Allowing this lie to carry this false agenda is just aiding and abetting the same motivation behind the Capitol riot
By clapping our hands over our eyes, ignoring it like you do, and hoping someone believes it has gone away somehow?
Democrats keep repeating "There's no evidence of election fraud!" Oh, really? How many examples would you like?
Sworn testimony from eyewitnesses, affidavits sworn under penalty of perjury, videos, etc. etc.
This post could be hundreds of pages long. Here are just a few examples. You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...0Authority.pdf
Quote:
11. In Michigan, a preliminary report, conducted by Russell James Ramsland, Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (“ASOG”), summarizing the results of ASOG’s court-ordered forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in Antrim County, Michigan, was released on December 14, 2020. A copy of this report is attached hereto as Exhibit A. The report delivers the following preliminary conclusion:
We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
Exh. A, ¶ B(2), p. 1. This Interim Report finds that the Dominion software was updated between the November 3, 2020 election and the subsequent recounts and that the updated software inexplicably produced wildly different results from the election day version. Id. at ¶ B(3), p. 2.
....to provide just one example among hundreds.
As usual, liberals have claimed a "hand recount" of paper ballots (which were printed out after voting by the same voting machines under investigation, not by the voters) somehow cleared the Dominion voting machines.
* Does that mean that it is no longer true that records and logs are missing?
* Does it mean that the machines no longer put out wildly differing counts before and after a firmware upgrade?
* Does it mean that logs produced during the forensic analysis no longer showed that a section of code that deliberately weighed Biden votes differently from Trump votes was active and running during the election and subsequent counting?
They seem to be claiming that these things are somehow "no longer true". No explanation for this has been given.
At State Farm Arena in Atlanta, GA on the day of the election, Surveillance video showed workers counting ballots with Republican and Democrat observers present.
At approx. 11:00PM, a woman with long blonde hair is seen talking to a number of the workers and observers. Shortly afterward, all the observers and most of the workers are seen turning and heading for the exit, except for four workers who stayed. Witnesses have described in sworn statements that the woman with long blonde hair had told everyone that everyone was quitting for the night and would resume ballot-counting etc. the following morning.
But the GA Secretary of State’s office later said that no one had told them they were quitting for the night, and that everyone should leave.
"We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended," the secretary of state's office said. "While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not." https://www.thecentersquare.com/geor...598f7c336.html
The Secretary of State’s representative making this statement was not sworn to tell the truth, unlike witnesses who WERE sworn and made statements saying they WERE told that everybody was to leave.
Atlanta election officials have since said that the videos show “normal ballot procedures”, as though counting ballots after sending the observers out of the room, in flat violation of Georgia law, was somehow “normal”.
Rudy Giuliani gave a press conference on Nov. 19, 2020 in which he described various direct evidence of fraud. 60 different people swore out affidavits, under penalty of perjury, that they had volunteered to come to the ballot-counting rooms to observe the counting and tabulating of ballots; and that they had been physically prevented from doing so, in violation of state laws.
Giuliani also mentioned a woman in Michigan named Jessie Jacob whose job was to collect mail-in ballots, who signed a similar affidavit (again under penalty of perjury) that her supervisor had ordered her and the other employees to deliberately falsify the date on the mail-in ballots, to reflect an earlier date than the actual date they were mailed. Again in flat violation of Michigan state election law.
See the above video at 16:20 to hear about it.
Giuliani has dozens of other sworn affidavits from other employees, volunteers etc. describing illegal behavior with ballots. Being sworn before an office of the court, under threat of the penalty for perjury, these are all direct evidence of violations of election law and ballot fraud. Giuliani and the rest of Trump’s legal team are collecting more and more such evidence as time goes on.
So much for endless repetitions of "There isn't any evidence". You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
Leftists who keep insisting there is “no evidence of fraud or election lawbreaking”, are either astoundingly ignorant of the truth, or are aware of the truth and are lying to you, trying to fool you into believing there is none.
Bottom line on that is both sides will remember and a pall of doubt had been cast in the SCOTUS. That doesn't bother some now, but it likely will in the future
the case before the SCOTUS had nothing to do with fraud so even if they had heard the case it would have done zero to appease those that believe in the fraud fantasy.
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How do we "get over" this?
By clapping our hands over our eyes, ignoring it like you do, and hoping someone believes it has gone away somehow?
Democrats keep repeating "There's no evidence of election fraud!" Oh, really? How many examples would you like?
Sworn testimony from eyewitnesses, affidavits sworn under penalty of perjury, videos, etc. etc.
This post could be hundreds of pages long. Here are just a few examples. You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...0Authority.pdf
Quote:
11. In Michigan, a preliminary report, conducted by Russell James Ramsland, Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (“ASOG”), summarizing the results of ASOG’s court-ordered forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in Antrim County, Michigan, was released on December 14, 2020. A copy of this report is attached hereto as Exhibit A. The report delivers the following preliminary conclusion:
We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
Exh. A, ¶ B(2), p. 1. This Interim Report finds that the Dominion software was updated between the November 3, 2020 election and the subsequent recounts and that the updated software inexplicably produced wildly different results from the election day version. Id. at ¶ B(3), p. 2.
....to provide just one example among hundreds.
As usual, liberals have claimed a "hand recount" of paper ballots (which were printed out after voting by the same voting machines under investigation, not by the voters) somehow cleared the Dominion voting machines.
* Does that mean that it is no longer true that records and logs are missing?
* Does it mean that the machines no longer put out wildly differing counts before and after a firmware upgrade?
* Does it mean that logs produced during the forensic analysis no longer showed that a section of code that deliberately weighed Biden votes differently from Trump votes was active and running during the election and subsequent counting?
They seem to be claiming that these things are somehow "no longer true". No explanation for this has been given.
At State Farm Arena in Atlanta, GA on the day of the election, Surveillance video showed workers counting ballots with Republican and Democrat observers present.
At approx. 11:00PM, a woman with long blonde hair is seen talking to a number of the workers and observers. Shortly afterward, all the observers and most of the workers are seen turning and heading for the exit, except for four workers who stayed. Witnesses have described in sworn statements that the woman with long blonde hair had told everyone that everyone was quitting for the night and would resume ballot-counting etc. the following morning.
But the GA Secretary of State’s office later said that no one had told them they were quitting for the night, and that everyone should leave.
"We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended," the secretary of state's office said. "While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not." https://www.thecentersquare.com/geor...598f7c336.html
The Secretary of State’s representative making this statement was not sworn to tell the truth, unlike witnesses who WERE sworn and made statements saying they WERE told that everybody was to leave.
Atlanta election officials have since said that the videos show “normal ballot procedures”, as though counting ballots after sending the observers out of the room, in flat violation of Georgia law, was somehow “normal”.
Rudy Giuliani gave a press conference on Nov. 19, 2020 in which he described various direct evidence of fraud. 60 different people swore out affidavits, under penalty of perjury, that they had volunteered to come to the ballot-counting rooms to observe the counting and tabulating of ballots; and that they had been physically prevented from doing so, in violation of state laws.
Giuliani also mentioned a woman in Michigan named Jessie Jacob whose job was to collect mail-in ballots, who signed a similar affidavit (again under penalty of perjury) that her supervisor had ordered her and the other employees to deliberately falsify the date on the mail-in ballots, to reflect an earlier date than the actual date they were mailed. Again in flat violation of Michigan state election law.
See the above video at 16:20 to hear about it.
Giuliani has dozens of other sworn affidavits from other employees, volunteers etc. describing illegal behavior with ballots. Being sworn before an office of the court, under threat of the penalty for perjury, these are all direct evidence of violations of election law and ballot fraud. Giuliani and the rest of Trump’s legal team are collecting more and more such evidence as time goes on.
So much for endless repetitions of "There isn't any evidence". You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
Leftists who keep insisting there is “no evidence of fraud or election lawbreaking”, are either astoundingly ignorant of the truth, or are aware of the truth and are lying to you, trying to fool you into believing there is none.
No ones ignoring anything. The Cheeto got his day in court, over 60 of them in fact, and came up big fat donut. Get it through your head! And that goes to anyone that still alleges cheating!
By clapping our hands over our eyes, ignoring it like you do, and hoping someone believes it has gone away somehow?
Democrats keep repeating "There's no evidence of election fraud!" Oh, really? How many examples would you like?
Sworn testimony from eyewitnesses, affidavits sworn under penalty of perjury, videos, etc. etc.
This post could be hundreds of pages long. Here are just a few examples. You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...0Authority.pdf
Quote:
11. In Michigan, a preliminary report, conducted by Russell James Ramsland, Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (“ASOG”), summarizing the results of ASOG’s court-ordered forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in Antrim County, Michigan, was released on December 14, 2020. A copy of this report is attached hereto as Exhibit A. The report delivers the following preliminary conclusion:
We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
Exh. A, ¶ B(2), p. 1. This Interim Report finds that the Dominion software was updated between the November 3, 2020 election and the subsequent recounts and that the updated software inexplicably produced wildly different results from the election day version. Id. at ¶ B(3), p. 2.
....to provide just one example among hundreds.
As usual, liberals have claimed a "hand recount" of paper ballots (which were printed out after voting by the same voting machines under investigation, not by the voters) somehow cleared the Dominion voting machines.
* Does that mean that it is no longer true that records and logs are missing?
* Does it mean that the machines no longer put out wildly differing counts before and after a firmware upgrade?
* Does it mean that logs produced during the forensic analysis no longer showed that a section of code that deliberately weighed Biden votes differently from Trump votes was active and running during the election and subsequent counting?
They seem to be claiming that these things are somehow "no longer true". No explanation for this has been given.
At State Farm Arena in Atlanta, GA on the day of the election, Surveillance video showed workers counting ballots with Republican and Democrat observers present.
At approx. 11:00PM, a woman with long blonde hair is seen talking to a number of the workers and observers. Shortly afterward, all the observers and most of the workers are seen turning and heading for the exit, except for four workers who stayed. Witnesses have described in sworn statements that the woman with long blonde hair had told everyone that everyone was quitting for the night and would resume ballot-counting etc. the following morning.
But the GA Secretary of State’s office later said that no one had told them they were quitting for the night, and that everyone should leave.
"We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended," the secretary of state's office said. "While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not." https://www.thecentersquare.com/geor...598f7c336.html
The Secretary of State’s representative making this statement was not sworn to tell the truth, unlike witnesses who WERE sworn and made statements saying they WERE told that everybody was to leave.
Atlanta election officials have since said that the videos show “normal ballot procedures”, as though counting ballots after sending the observers out of the room, in flat violation of Georgia law, was somehow “normal”.
Rudy Giuliani gave a press conference on Nov. 19, 2020 in which he described various direct evidence of fraud. 60 different people swore out affidavits, under penalty of perjury, that they had volunteered to come to the ballot-counting rooms to observe the counting and tabulating of ballots; and that they had been physically prevented from doing so, in violation of state laws.
Giuliani also mentioned a woman in Michigan named Jessie Jacob whose job was to collect mail-in ballots, who signed a similar affidavit (again under penalty of perjury) that her supervisor had ordered her and the other employees to deliberately falsify the date on the mail-in ballots, to reflect an earlier date than the actual date they were mailed. Again in flat violation of Michigan state election law.
See the above video at 16:20 to hear about it.
Giuliani has dozens of other sworn affidavits from other employees, volunteers etc. describing illegal behavior with ballots. Being sworn before an office of the court, under threat of the penalty for perjury, these are all direct evidence of violations of election law and ballot fraud. Giuliani and the rest of Trump’s legal team are collecting more and more such evidence as time goes on.
So much for endless repetitions of "There isn't any evidence". You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
Leftists who keep insisting there is “no evidence of fraud or election lawbreaking”, are either astoundingly ignorant of the truth, or are aware of the truth and are lying to you, trying to fool you into believing there is none.
Funny how Hillary lost by the same amount running against Trump, her supporters were told to get over it. Yet when Trump loses by the same amount against Biden it's somehow fraud. How ridiculous.
Democrats steal an election, Trump points it out, people get angry so Dems announce TRUMP is the one who got them angry?
Failed GOP POTUS loses an election, Don-the-Con creates a BIG LIE, begs assorted Trumpian mislead malcontents and misfits to discharge venomous violence in an effort to re-install him, and Americans again announce they've had enough of the democracy denier.
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No ones ignoring anything. The Cheeto got his day in court, over 60 of them in fact, and came up big fat donut. Get it through your head! And that goes to anyone that still alleges cheating!
When? What day? Please cute any case that was presented in court.
None.
No judge was willing to go against the leftists. Works for you this time. It won't in the future.
The ignorance I see here by self-righteous people who deign themselves both knowledgeable of current events and morally superior to those with opposing ideologies is precisely that which I've seen for years on social media.
Evidence for election fraud is enormous. Courts did not listen to the lawsuits by refusing to grant them standing, not by assessing and adjudging the evidence.
It is amazing, but not surprising, that the arrogance and mockery seen towards President Trump's supporters ("you lost, get over it, there was no fraud") is demonstrated in unison, like a voice within an echo chamber.
The problem for those who care about truth is that in this country, people have shockingly short-term memories. It is not without reason that Chou En-lai, one of the senior leaders of China under Mao, stated that "the most delightful things about Americans is that they have absolutely no historical memory."
If this fraud is allowed to stand, the Republic's institutions will have suffered permanent damage, and this could pave the way for a future dictator which the left has been harping for years Donald Trump was/is.
As for January 6: the peaceful protest was infiltrated by leftists. Black Lives Matter activists have been filmed saying "we did it!" (in what was a sabotage of what would have been a presentation of election fraud evidence as per law). Trump supporters who were simply let in were too naive to wonder why the barricades were removed and the doors quietly opened for them.
Accusations of "sedition," "treason," and "rioting" are ludicrous - where were you while Black Lives Matter and Antifa lay waste to numerous U.S. cities, resulting in many deaths, many injuries (some permanent - look up Shay Mikalonis), and hundreds of small businesses incinerated, many owned by nonwhties such as Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Middle Eastern immigrants, and others by black Americans. This orgy of hatred and destruction had a price tag of at least USD 2 billion in what was the biggest price tag on man-made damage in U.S. history; this was the biggest wave of destruction since the U.S. Civil War.
You who read this far and disagree are likely tempted to write a post in mockery, for thus is your disagreement with what I have written. Very well. But keep your eyes open. The events of 11/3/2020 and the few days after, along with Democrat corruption of election/voting laws and regulations, resulted in a fraudulent result. Your approval of this has contributed to the potential for even greater fraud one day, only it would be your candidate losing.
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