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Old 01-08-2021, 08:38 AM
 
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I guess he is saying that the Capitol police are racists because they would have treated BLM protesters differently because of the color of their skin?

Way to fan those racial flames.

"Hey! Blacks should be able to riot just as well as whites! Come on, man!"
No what he is saying is WHY wasn’t the National Guard in Riot gear present just as it was during BLM March? To act like the treatment was not different is just being blind or stupid. It was plain for everyone to see.
Where are all the “ they deserve to be tear gassed, beaten, shot @nd arrested, if they are challenging police and looting comments” they were all over these boards from the Right during BLM protests but silent now.

A policeman was beaten to death in this Right Wing riot, where are all the Blue Lives Matter posters? Where is the outrage? Why are they silent?
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Old 01-08-2021, 08:45 AM
 
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The media and Biden downplayed the violence, vandalism, and looting which went on for days and even weeks and months in may cities in the United States at the hands of Black Lives Matter. That makes his recent statement racist.
Racist to who and what?
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Old 01-08-2021, 09:15 AM
 
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Racist to who and what?
To the rioters, looters, arsonists, and vandals who wreaked havoc in the streets of U.S. cities which were hit by public unrest this past summer who were black.

Not all of these criminals were black and many blacks who were protesting, whether as part of or only in support of Black Lives Matter the organization, did not commit crimes.

But treating the criminals who were black with leniency is to view them as less than full citizens and thinking adults who have moral agency and the capacity to understand that actions have consequences. If a 16-month-old grabs a $1,000 mobile and throws it forcefully on the ground, thus cracking it, that child cannot be forced to pay for a replacement mobile; that child did not know the phone would break, that child did not know it wasn't his/hers, and that child didn't know mobiles are expensive.

To coddle members of a given demographic by degrading standards, whether it's standards of behavior against existing laws or standards of admission into specialized high schools and high-ranking universities is to tell them "you are being given exemptions and special dispensations because we conclude that you as a people are innately unqualified, naturally incapable, and otherwise lacking of the requirements that an advanced, cognitively complex, and civilized society requires of its members if it is to remain such a society."

This is the worst and most despicable, egregious, nefarious, and reprehensible form of racism that exists: the soft bigotry of low expectations. It is the patronizing and condescending attitude towards an entire demographic, the infantilization of adult human beings, the lessening of their humanity.
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Old 01-08-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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To the rioters, looters, arsonists, and vandals who wreaked havoc in the streets of U.S. cities which were hit by public unrest this past summer who were black.

Not all of these criminals were black and many blacks who were protesting, whether as part of or only in support of Black Lives Matter the organization, did not commit crimes.

But treating the criminals who were black with leniency is to view them as less than full citizens and thinking adults who have moral agency and the capacity to understand that actions have consequences. If a 16-month-old grabs a $1,000 mobile and throws it forcefully on the ground, thus cracking it, that child cannot be forced to pay for a replacement mobile; that child did not know the phone would break, that child did not know it wasn't his/hers, and that child didn't know mobiles are expensive.

To coddle members of a given demographic by degrading standards, whether it's standards of behavior against existing laws or standards of admission into specialized high schools and high-ranking universities is to tell them "you are being given exemptions and special dispensations because we conclude that you as a people are innately unqualified, naturally incapable, and otherwise lacking of the requirements that an advanced, cognitively complex, and civilized society requires of its members if it is to remain such a society."

This is the worst and most despicable, egregious, nefarious, and reprehensible form of racism that exists: the soft bigotry of low expectations. It is the patronizing and condescending attitude towards an entire demographic, the infantilization of adult human beings, the lessening of their humanity.
I do not think it is coddling to point out the truth. It is plain to see what happened to BLM protesters in Washington and they were not trying to invade the Capitol. Why were Trump supporters treated differently?. Anybody who loots and riots deserves the same treatment, that is all that Biden was pointing out. Trying to attack the Capitol and hurt lawmakers who won't overturn an election that you can't prove in a court of law was stolen is why these people did what they did two days ago. Is that really comparable to peaceful BLM protestors?. Obviously, BLM rioters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and many were.
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Old 01-08-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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I do not think it is coddling to point out the truth. It is plain to see what happened to BLM protesters in Washington and they were not trying to invade the Capitol. Why were Trump supporters treated differently?. Anybody who loots and riots deserves the same treatment, that is all that Biden was pointing out. Trying to attack the Capitol and hurt lawmakers who won't overturn an election that you can't prove in a court of law was stolen is why these people did what they did two days ago. Is that really comparable to peaceful BLM protestors?. Obviously, BLM rioters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and many were.
Many? You mean a tiny minority. Thousands got away with assault, battery, robbery, and vandalism.

The damage seen at the Capitol is nothing next to the USD 2 billion in estimated damages incurred by the BLM/Antifa riots - this is the most expensive man-made disaster in U.S. history.

Treat BLM/Antifa and the patriots equally? Then the Capitol police should have knelt before the patriots. Then again, the patriots never set anything aflame on Wednesday other than the passions of those who are on the left.
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Old 01-08-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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Many? You mean a tiny minority. Thousands got away with assault, battery, robbery, and vandalism.

The damage seen at the Capitol is nothing next to the USD 2 billion in estimated damages incurred by the BLM/Antifa riots - this is the most expensive man-made disaster in U.S. history.

Treat BLM/Antifa and the patriots equally? Then the Capitol police should have knelt before the patriots. Then again, the patriots never set anything aflame on Wednesday other than the passions of those who are on the left.
I think you will find that the damage to our democracy is more than any dollar figure you quoted. Oh and we got easy because the mob was led by incompetents, because had they actually gotten a hold of senators, representatives or the VP, we could be in a whole different horrific situation.

But yes continued to act like the BLM protests were more dangerous than this act of sedition and traitors trying to overthrow our democracy it just shows how crazy people have become in this country listening to BS being hyped by outside forces looking to destroy this country.
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Old 01-08-2021, 10:47 AM
 
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To the rioters, looters, arsonists, and vandals who wreaked havoc in the streets of U.S. cities which were hit by public unrest this past summer who were black.

Not all of these criminals were black and many blacks who were protesting, whether as part of or only in support of Black Lives Matter the organization, did not commit crimes.

But treating the criminals who were black with leniency is to view them as less than full citizens and thinking adults who have moral agency and the capacity to understand that actions have consequences. If a 16-month-old grabs a $1,000 mobile and throws it forcefully on the ground, thus cracking it, that child cannot be forced to pay for a replacement mobile; that child did not know the phone would break, that child did not know it wasn't his/hers, and that child didn't know mobiles are expensive.

To coddle members of a given demographic by degrading standards, whether it's standards of behavior against existing laws or standards of admission into specialized high schools and high-ranking universities is to tell them "you are being given exemptions and special dispensations because we conclude that you as a people are innately unqualified, naturally incapable, and otherwise lacking of the requirements that an advanced, cognitively complex, and civilized society requires of its members if it is to remain such a society."

This is the worst and most despicable, egregious, nefarious, and reprehensible form of racism that exists: the soft bigotry of low expectations. It is the patronizing and condescending attitude towards an entire demographic, the infantilization of adult human beings, the lessening of their humanity.
You have clearly stated what is in the hearts of so many good American citizens! I hope all will hear you.

I would like to just add that when obama, and his like, use coded language to approve the killing of our peace officers and apologize to America's enemies for our existence, it is nothing more than an open display of contempt for the ATM machines we are to them. Although I don't agree with some of President Donald Trump's words, at this time in history, he is what is needed to bring sunshine to hate D.C. politicians have for us while hiding behind the very peace officers they hold in contempt. Biden will only continue to parrot obama's hate until harris gets her fangs into him, which will then only accelerate the racist obama agenda. America should not be a follower of someone like that.

Pelosi's crumb throwing will not solve the years of disrespect she has for the taxpayers. She may have torn up the State of the Union Address, but got a pig's head in return. My sympathy to the pig. Passing out pork is clearly her game. Her claims of praying for President Trump are hollow and have no ring of any truth coming from such an evil person. She is clearly as much, if not more, out of touch than biden/harris but their goals are the same for America...totalitarianism. Think!
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Old 01-08-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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I think you will find that the damage to our democracy is more than any dollar figure you quoted. Oh and we got easy because the mob was led by incompetents, because had they actually gotten a hold of senators, representatives or the VP, we could be in a whole different horrific situation.

But yes continued to act like the BLM protests were more dangerous than this act of sedition and traitors trying to overthrow our democracy it just shows how crazy people have become in this country listening to BS being hyped by outside forces looking to destroy this country.

Facts!.
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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I do not think it is coddling to point out the truth. It is plain to see what happened to BLM protesters in Washington and they were not trying to invade the Capitol. Why were Trump supporters treated differently?. Anybody who loots and riots deserves the same treatment, that is all that Biden was pointing out. Trying to attack the Capitol and hurt lawmakers who won't overturn an election that you can't prove in a court of law was stolen is why these people did what they did two days ago. Is that really comparable to peaceful BLM protestors?. Obviously, BLM rioters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and many were.
In my City, there was no national guard and the BLM rioters to were allowed to loot and burn. Twice

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Old 01-08-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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I think you will find that the damage to our democracy is more than any dollar figure you quoted.
See, this is precisely why the left weaponizes vocabulary. Vague and abstract phrases and words such as 'damage to our democracy' sound powerful because they stimulate feeling rather than thought, but this is nothing something that can be quantified nor rationally defined in any meaningful way.

Democracy is nothing more than the rule of the majority. By that definition, the Democratic Party lynching of many freedmen after 1865, the gang rapes of European women by "migrants" which leftists mislabeled as refugees starting in mid-2015, and the hordes of criminals caught on video looting Walmarts, Targets, and assaulting business owners were examples of the rule of the majority.

If you are going to actually reflect on actual, real-world assaults on U.S. institutions, you should demonstrate outrage at how federal buildings and police precincts were attacked and in some cases overrun. You should likewise be upset that laws were violated (such as in Pennsylvania re: ballots for the 11/3/2020) election. And you should be appalled at the way high-ranking and powerful members of government colluded to take down the duly elected President of the United States of America, Donald Trump, with a mendacious story about "Russian collusion" which cost more than $30m in taxpayer money and which was ultimately a lie (not the least because declassified depositions by people like Adam Schiff and others like him indicated no knowledge of collusion between the government of the Russian Federation and Trump's campaign - these are depositions dating from early 2017. Did you even hear of them? Did you read them? I have them all in pdf format. I speculate this is the first you've heard of these depositions.)

And regarding dollar figures: I'm sure you would write the same thing if you were one of the Chinese, Vietnamese, Hispanic, Korean, Middle Eastern, African, or black American small business owners who witnessed BLM/Antifa turn their livelihoods into embers. Patriots do not do this stuff; it didn't happen on Wednesday. There's no comparison - patriots are far more law-abiding and pose much less of a hazard to public and private property than the radical left.

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Oh and we got easy because the mob was led by incompetents, because had they actually gotten a hold of senators, representatives or the VP, we could be in a whole different horrific situation.
Speculation - that's all this paragraph is.

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But yes continued to act like the BLM protests were more dangerous than this act of sedition and traitors trying to overthrow our democracy
I already tackled this use of language. It doesn't work on me. Sedition? Traitors? Attempt to overthrow? Using these words does not indicate understanding of what they mean. I suggest you return to books and to articles and really understand what these terms mean. If you want to look at people of sedition and treason, look at Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, James Comey.

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it just shows how crazy people have become in this country listening to BS being hyped by outside forces looking to destroy this country.
And that's why Joseph Xiden is a national security threat. He and his son Hunter are owned by the Chinese Communist Party. Please: I urge you to do some actual research.
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