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Old 01-08-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Double standards do need to be addressed. Peaceful people protesting cops killing people are met with riot police, tear gas and rubber bullets. People trying to prevent the peaceful transition of power following a legal election get let into the capitol by the police, then get selfies with them.

Obvious double standards like that DO need to be addressed. It's absolutely astounding the mental gymnastics some people are going through right now to try to justify Trump's followers' attack on the capitol.
Oh, so you're saying this was, indeed a peaceful protest, and that demonstrators were actually escorted into the building. Thanks for that. Puts to bed the argument that these were violent domestic terrorists or insurrectionists or whatever insults the left has thrown at them the last couple days. So they were, indeed, just peaceful people exercising their right to petition the government for redress of grievances. Glad you cleared that up. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Oh, so you're saying this was, indeed a peaceful protest, and that demonstrators were actually escorted into the building. Thanks for that. Puts to bed the argument that these were violent domestic terrorists or insurrectionists or whatever insults the left has thrown at them the last couple days. So they were, indeed, just peaceful people exercising their right to petition the government for redress of grievances. Glad you cleared that up. Can't have it both ways.
He didn't say that and you know it, so why did you put words in his mouth. There was NOTHING peaceful of the insurectionous terrorist thugs that broke into the Capitol Building looking to FSU. Luckily Senators, Representatives and Vice President Pence were able to seek shelter, otherwise this situation would have clearly and without a doubt been an insurrection and a terrorist act by a gang of thugs. GMAFB
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Hm. I said nothing about religious organizations that I can remember.
Let's dive deeper. You implied that MAGAs (almost half of Americans who have their own ideas about wanting better for our country, but who do not self identify as liberal have been generalized by the left as falling into the MAGA camp) are a group that seems more intent on hating others (blacks, hispanics, immigrants, muslims, gays, women's rights). I work with lots of liberals and lots of conservatives, many people who voted for Trump who are black, white, asian, hispanic, muslim, etc.. Do I believe if they are MAGA that they are haters like you described? No. Just like I do not believe that all liberals are crazy.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:27 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I can see a lot of reasons for it.

But I will start with no one is seeing the side of MAGAs. Countless articles and books HAVE been dedicated to understanding "the white man's plight" (yes there is some snark there, which proves the OPs point). I WOULD say it is more understanding them from a political standpoint than empathy.

It is HARD to empathize with a group that seems more intent on hating others (blacks, hispanics, immigrants, muslims, gays, women's rights). If they could verbalize something positive they stand for? That is not something "against" others? It appears that no conspiracy theory is too "out there" for them, which alienates even MORE people

BLM is a sympathetic group. They are against police brutality (is anyone FOR it?), and equal rights (is anyone AGAINST that?).

Perhaps MAGA needs to work more on communicating some type of positive message. Honestly, mounting an insurrection doesn't help.

I've heard MAGA interviewed with reasonable questions, and the answers are rarely reasonable. I cringe. I do realize the media chooses what interviews to publish, so I try to keep that in mind.

BUT, I talk to my neighbors and they freely spout the same, things that are just untrue. Comments about laws in CA, that are easy to directly fact check, and they just go around parroting crazy stuff.
Excellent post. Conservatives seems angry all the time, all the time angry about something. All eight years of Obama they were angry, all four years under Trump they were angry. And that's what the WORLD saw this week, an angry mob of white folks storming the Capitol building.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Great post.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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fully agree. i was SO DISGUSTED with the reporting i had to walk it off.

great post
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Old 01-08-2021, 03:04 PM
 
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Excellent post. Conservatives seems angry all the time, all the time angry about something. All eight years of Obama they were angry, all four years under Trump they were angry. And that's what the WORLD saw this week, an angry mob of white folks storming the Capitol building.
That's funny. Seemed like a bunch of happy people at all those boat parades. Every rally seemed to be peaceful, other than the other day. I saw some rally's held out on the dunes, again, everyone was having a great time. There was even a 20k strong armed 2A rally with no issues.
I think you are quite mistaken. Remember the riots in D.C. on inauguration day 2017, the riots at Berkeley over a speaker some didn't like, the non stop rioting in cities across the nation ? Yeah, anger is definitely something the left embraces.
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Old 01-08-2021, 03:08 PM
 
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This thread is about ending double standards.


When leftists broke into Senate hearings and Senate offices during the Kavanaugh hearings was that an act of terrorism?

When leftists including people under the BLM banner attacked a federal court house for literally dozens of nights in a row in Portland with projectiles, fires, fireworks, etc was that an act of terrorism?

When leftists including people under the BLM banner would attack non-violent bystanders, or attack people for not realizing that the road had been illegally shutdown for their protest, etc...was that an act of terrorism?
Any person who invades a government building is a domestic terrorist. I never once defended violence that happened during BLM. BLM was 99% peaceful. The 1% who were violent should pay the penalty. Trump supporters are 99% peaceful. The terrorists (that 1%) who raided the capitol this week should pay the penalty.

Yes, this IS about double standards though. If BLM tried to enter the capitol building, they would have been gunned down at the door. Trump supporters had the gates opened for them by the police. That double standard should trouble us all.
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Old 01-08-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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Any person who invades a government building is a domestic terrorist. I never once defended violence that happened during BLM. BLM was 99% peaceful. The 1% who were violent should pay the penalty. Trump supporters are 99% peaceful. The terrorists (that 1%) who raided the capitol this week should pay the penalty.
Does your posting history show you calling the Democrat Kavanaugh protestors that broke into the hearings as terrorists?

Does your posting history show you calling the summer rioters terrorists?


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Yes, this IS about double standards though. If BLM tried to enter the capitol building, they would have been gunned down at the door. Trump supporters had the gates opened for them by the police. That double standard should trouble us all.
That is speculation.

What we know for a fact is people under the BLM banner can riot and the media will downplay it in a way that they won't for conservative rioters.

What we know is Kamala Harris can encourage it and not be called to task by the MSM.
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Old 01-08-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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Any person who invades a government building is a domestic terrorist. I never once defended violence that happened during BLM. BLM was 99% peaceful. The 1% who were violent should pay the penalty. Trump supporters are 99% peaceful. The terrorists (that 1%) who raided the capitol this week should pay the penalty.

Yes, this IS about double standards though. If BLM tried to enter the capitol building, they would have been gunned down at the door. Trump supporters had the gates opened for them by the police. That double standard should trouble us all.
If you think BLM was 99% peaceful, you need to retake 5th grade math.
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