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That's a personal interpretation that you have that you may not share with others though, you're incorrectly ascribing it to everyone.
I understand that you feel the election was stolen, as do many Trump supporters. For you, that is not sufficient justification for an armed rebellion though, but for others it was.
Whether there is sufficient justification for an armed rebellion is an entirely different topic of discussion.
The question I was addressing was the specific, supposed "Call to violence" that would be the basis for Congress impeachment of President Trump, as they are discussing doing even as we speak. If President Trump had said something like "Be sure to bring your guns and plenty of spare ammunition," I would regard that as a "Call to violence". If he had said "Let's go to the Capitol and throw those rascals physically out," I would regard that as a "Call to violence".
If President Trump had said "We have watched the Democrat left's terrorist wing - Antifa and Black Lives Matter - burn, loot, vandalize, and take over parts of our country over the last year, and the Democrats have on many occasions openly encouraged the violence, they have constrained and defunded the police, and they have not tried to stop it. Now we must do the same over at the US Capitol building...," I would certainly have regarded that as a "Call to violence".
But nothing like any of that happened. Calling on Vice President Pence to "do the right thing" and other similar remarks is about as far removed from an actual "Call to violence" as you can plausibly get.
There is no legitimate basis for the Democrats to proceed with this. All they have are the howls of the media-led mob and an unhinged politically based hatred towards President Trump. It will be a blatant abuse of power if they pursue this. And literally nothing more.
Impeachment or other means (legal / administrative etc.) are needed to ensure this crap show is put behind us once and for all and that Trump can not run again. To also send a message to any future leadership that you are not above the law regardless of who you are / the position you hold and you can not do crazy stuff then just quietly slink out the door in the end to ride off into the sunset.
If impeachment or other measures are not done against the conspiracy theory filled divider and insurrectionist, Trump will attempt to run again in 2024 or after. Mark my words. I hope I am wrong but I do not think I am.
The scary thing is not just that he would run again by quietly slinking out the back door this time but he knows he will have put out the lasting image of him as "the fighter" and will have the anger and ire of half the country currently under his hypnotic spell for what they perceived as a stolen election, replaced by a person / party in which they despise. 4 years of brewing, steeping, bubbling anger. Hence his out of character recent speech calling for Unity, "love" and to come "together". It wasn't because he was remorseful. That out of character hostage speech was his pitch for not having repercussions against him to protect his future both criminally and for a future run.
Anger on the right and complacency on the left won Donald Trump the election the first time. Anger from a perceived stolen election may very likely win him an election a second time. Because of these things, I honestly believe Donald J. Trump has a very strong possibility of being elected again as President of the United States of America either in 2024 or later.
I hope I am wrong but like I have been right about Trump before, I do not think so.
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What have the democrats done for America during these 4 years?
You can't be serious! You really haven't been paying attention. Every bill they've written the Repub senate has shot down.
The majority of the legislation the last 4 years has been executive orders and machinations by Trump firing people and weakening governmental departments so they are ineffective. He's come really close to destroying us.
And no honest person, who has even a rudimentary command of the English language, will understand any of those comments as a "Call to violence".
Well, it certainly had that effect, now, didn't it. Lie to them about being robbed, whip them up, then point them at the Capitol. The congress people will be the ones to decide if Trump crossed the line, not you, and they are pretty darn pissed at the desecration of their hallowed chambers. And what was Trump doing out there "rallying" his troops anyway, while the joint session of Congress was slated to be present in the Capitol and debate the election then count the certified electoral ballots?
I only support this if there are enough votes for removal in the Senate, making it a unifying bipartisan exercise.
I'm fine with impeachment, even if he's not convicted by the Senate. He just really deserves it for this latest outrage. Plus, I don't really want to see him removed because then Pence might pardon him "for the country to heal" or some BS. Trump should be indicted for his crimes, now that he can't stonewall the evidence against him, and then incarcerated according to law if found guilty.
What have the democrats done for America during these 4 years?
Try to get at Trump and take care of illegal immigrants.
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