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Old 07-08-2021, 08:46 PM
 
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How exactly was it a set up
Read the article. Watch the video.

https://populist.press/breaking-jan-...Day%2099%20WR3

10 Senators had announced they were going to object to individual states’ electoral results. For an objection to succeed, both chambers would have to support the objection from a Senator. More than 100 representatives were expected to object the votes from six contested states. The basis of the objections were allegations of widespread voter fraud.

At the Capitol, on Jan. 6, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, alongside U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, stood during a joint session of the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate to register their objections to the certification of Arizona’s Electoral College vote count. Then the House and Senate recessed to discuss the objection/evidence in their chambers.

The conveniently-timed "riot" upended those proceedings. Trump and his supporters wanted those proceedings to continue.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:52 PM
 
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Wow, populist.press has absolutely THE most scathing rating by MediaBiasFactCheck.

"Overall, we rate Populist.Press far right biased and Questionable based on the use of poor sources, promotion of propaganda and misinformation as well as a complete lack of transparency and serving as an imposter website."

"Imposter Website", LOL!

But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Definitely don't visit the site, you might end up on the wrong list. Heck, "they" might even burn your eyes out just viewing it. (/s)

It's a video - actual video of a former government official. It has words and everything. Maybe you could try disputing the video content instead.
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:04 PM
 
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Read the article. Watch the video.

https://populist.press/breaking-jan-...Day%2099%20WR3

10 Senators had announced they were going to object to individual states’ electoral results. For an objection to succeed, both chambers would have to support the objection from a Senator. More than 100 representatives were expected to object the votes from six contested states. The basis of the objections were allegations of widespread voter fraud.

At the Capitol, on Jan. 6, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, alongside U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, stood during a joint session of the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate to register their objections to the certification of Arizona’s Electoral College vote count. Then the House and Senate recessed to discuss the objection/evidence in their chambers.

The conveniently-timed "riot" upended those proceedings. Trump and his supporters wanted those proceedings to continue.


Wow. First of all, it didn't matter who objected because there was nothing they could do to change the outcome of the election. Trump and his supporters were naïve to think the outcome would change. They obviously don't know our Constitution especially when they blamed Pence for not rejecting the electoral votes for Biden in order to make Trump president. That's pretty insane to believe that.
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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You're using the Source Fallacy? Really? That's all you got?

You can't refute one word Former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Defense, Kash Patel made in the interview so you attack PopulistPress? Not a convincing argument against the case the Former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Defense made.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Gee, why does the name, Kash Patel sound familiar?

Oh that's right. He's this guy: Trump loyalist blocking some Pentagon officials from helping Biden transition

You might want to educate yourself on what the Mayor's strategy actually was instead of relying on a Trump loyalist and an "imposter website" to tell you what to think. It's all out there and well documented, if you care to educate yourself. Or not, it's your call.

Trumpists are just desperate to blame someone else for Jan 6, instead of facing the 800 lb gorilla in the room: Six hours of paralysis: Inside Trump’s failure to act after a mob stormed the Capitol
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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Wow. First of all, it didn't matter who objected because there was nothing they could do to change the outcome of the election. Trump and his supporters were naïve to think the outcome would change. They obviously don't know our Constitution especially when they blamed Pence for not rejecting the electoral votes for Biden in order to make Trump president. That's pretty insane to believe that.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.

I have a different perspective, especially after hearing members of our State Legislature explain that Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, of the U.S. Constitution, gives plenary authority directly to the State Legislatures over the electors - including the authority to correct an error. The Arizona State Legislature had the authority to decertify the Secretary of State and Governor's certification. In fact, an argument could be made that the Secretary of State and Governor's certification was illegitimate, since they certified the votes while the Arizona State Legislature was hearing witness sworn testimony of election fraud.

Senator Ted Cruz and Representative Paul Gosar new exactly what they were doing when they objected to the certification of Arizona’s Electoral College vote count. The Globalists had to stop them at all costs.
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:50 PM
 
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Gee, why does the name, Kash Patel sound familiar?

Oh that's right. He's this guy: Trump loyalist blocking some Pentagon officials from helping Biden transition

You might want to educate yourself on what the Mayor's strategy actually was instead of relying on a Trump loyalist and an "imposter website" to tell you what to think. It's all out there and well documented, if you care to educate yourself. Or not, it's your call.

Trumpists are just desperate to blame someone else for Jan 6, instead of facing the 800 lb gorilla in the room: Six hours of paralysis: Inside Trump’s failure to act after a mob stormed the Capitol
Again, with the Source Fallacy.

That's one way to avoid trying to disproving the the key points:
  • Mayor Muriel Bowser turned down thousands of National Guard troops at the Capitol on January 6.
  • Chris Wray’s FBI also refused to notify the Trump administration and his cabinet secretaries that they believed there could be a mass protests at the Capitol.
  • Nancy Pelosi also refused the National Guard at the US Capitol
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:52 PM
 
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Thank you for sharing your opinion.

I have a different perspective, especially after hearing members of our State Legislature explain that Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, of the U.S. Constitution, gives plenary authority directly to the State Legislatures over the electors - including the authority to correct an error. The Arizona State Legislature had the authority to decertify the Secretary of State and Governor's certification. In fact, an argument could be made that the Secretary of State and Governor's certification was illegitimate, since they certified the votes while the Arizona State Legislature was hearing witness sworn testimony of election fraud.

Senator Ted Cruz and Representative Paul Gosar new exactly what they were doing when they objected to the certification of Arizona’s Electoral College vote count. The Globalists had to stop them at all costs.
The fact is there was no error. Trump lost by 7 million votes. No amount of fraud could result in 7 million votes. If this was true then how do you account for republicans winning down ticket. That's some advanced technology by democrats to change the presidential vote and not the rest of the ticket. So why didn't democrats cheat to make sure Hillary won. Honestly, this is all just nonsense because Trump can't accept that he lost. He has to make up conspiracy theories and continue on his rant to stroke his ego.
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Old 07-08-2021, 10:01 PM
 
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The fact is there was no error. Trump lost by 7 million votes. No amount of fraud could result in 7 million votes. If this was true then how do you account for republicans winning down ticket. That's some advanced technology by democrats to change the presidential vote and not the rest of the ticket. So why didn't democrats cheat to make sure Hillary won. Honestly, this is all just nonsense because Trump can't accept that he lost. He has to make up conspiracy theories and continue on his rant to stroke his ego.

Arizona's audit will determine whether or not there was sufficient fraud to justify the State Legislature decertifying the votes. The State Legislature has the authority to correct an error.
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Old 07-08-2021, 10:16 PM
 
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Arizona's audit will determine whether or not there was sufficient fraud to justify the State Legislature decertifying the votes. The State Legislature has the authority to correct an error.
Once the votes are certified it's done. You can't decertify them. Besides, Arizona wouldn't have won him the election.
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Old 07-08-2021, 10:38 PM
 
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Again, with the Source Fallacy.

That's one way to avoid trying to disproving the the key points:
  • Mayor Muriel Bowser turned down thousands of National Guard troops at the Capitol on January 6.
  • Chris Wray’s FBI also refused to notify the Trump administration and his cabinet secretaries that they believed there could be a mass protests at the Capitol.
  • Nancy Pelosi also refused the National Guard at the US Capitol
Much of what you listed above is pure fantasy, like the bit about Pelosi. Pelosi did not reject appeals for troops to secure US Capitol

However, I do agree there are a LOT of unanswered questions about Jan 6 that need to be answered.

So why is it that Republicans are blocking any bipartisan investigations of it? Senate Republicans Filibuster Jan. 6 Inquiry Bill, Blocking an Investigation

Hmmmm...?
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