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Old 01-08-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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Bush's economic recovery along with Obama's follow thru definitely helped our investments through last year. The recession that began just prior to COVID hitting the US was potentially horrific but COVID allowed Congress to act quickly with a massive stimulus program. It's too early to tell whether the stimulus brought us out of the recession that started under Trump or just kicked his recession down the road. We will find out when the free/cheap money the government is printing ends.

None of this has to do with why he is being impeached, however.
That’s disingenuous. The recession did start before Trump declared an actual state of emergency, but Covid was the reason the recession happened in the first place.

As far as why he is being impeached? The Democrats don’t want Trump sniping at Biden/Harris for 4 full years and then coming back to challenge in 2024. This phony impeachment will fail just like all the other attempts. So yes, Trump will be hitting Biden hard for the next few years, nothing the Dems can do about it.

Even the Twitter ban and Parler platform ban will not work. Trump will build his own platform, or someone else will. Then 75 million people will migrate to that new platform.

Being part of the resistance is gonna be a lot of fun.
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Old 01-08-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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Think about it — we just had a peaceful election where a record 75 million people voted for a sitting president.

A few months later the sitting president with 75 million followers is being impeached for 2nd time.

I don’t follow politics THAT closely but my home and 401k are at record high yet my president is being impeached and vanquished from the internet.

Is this the real world?
I know right! It's almost like he tried to stage a coup, or talked his followers into violently attacking the Capitol and killing a police officer who worked there. It's crazy to remove him from office for petty things like Treason and Sedition. Especially when so many people are dumb enough to believe in him anyway!

This injustice cannot stand!
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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To a large extent, conservatives are experiencing what liberals did last election cycle: shock and disbelief that their candidate lost because in their social and social media circles, chosen media platforms, etc, there's a 24/7 pro-candidate blitz that makes people think that a) no one likes the other candidate, and b) the world is going to end if that other candidate wins.

75 million people liked Trump. 81 million liked biden, and enough of those people lived in the right swing states to push it in his favor. This has happened *every four years* for a couple hundred years; the only thing that's changed is social media and the media conglomerates pushing narratives of division and fear, which unfortunately hit a nerve, and for the first time we have a sitting president who is willing to hit that nerve and fragment America further to try to assauge his ego.

Trump lost. Big time. Repeatedly. It's over. Come back in four years with a better candidate. That's all.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:53 AM
 
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To a large extent, conservatives are experiencing what liberals did last election cycle: shock and disbelief that their candidate lost because in their social and social media circles, chosen media platforms, etc, there's a 24/7 pro-candidate blitz that makes people think that a) no one likes the other candidate, and b) the world is going to end if that other candidate wins.

75 million people liked Trump. 81 million liked biden, and enough of those people lived in the right swing states to push it in his favor. This has happened *every four years* for a couple hundred years; the only thing that's changed is social media and the media conglomerates pushing narratives of division and fear, which unfortunately hit a nerve, and for the first time we have a sitting president who is willing to hit that nerve and fragment America further to try to assauge his ego.

Trump lost. Big time. Repeatedly. It's over. Come back in four years with a better candidate. That's all.
you honestly believe all 81 million Americans voted for Biden because they "liked" Biden? Biden ran for presidential nominations two other times. He lost both times in 1988 and 2008. Hell, he didn't even make it to the primaries in 2008 after receiving less than 1% support from his own party.

Trump, with his outrageous behavior in the past 4 years and fubar response on covid19 pandemic, did not deter 74 million Americans to vote for him. In fact, he got 10 million votes in 2020 than in 2016. Now, that's how you show someone that you really "like" him.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:58 AM
 
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you honestly believe all 81 million Americans voted for Biden because they "liked" Biden? Biden ran for presidential nominations two other times. He lost both times in 1988 and 2008. Hell, he didn't even make it to the primaries in 2008 after receiving less than 1% support from his own party.

Trump, with his outrageous behavior in the past 4 years and fubar response on covid19 pandemic, did not deter 74 million Americans to vote for him. In fact, he got 10 million votes in 2020 than in 2016. Now, that's how you show someone that you really "like" him.
It doesn't matter how or why they preferred him, they voted for him. That more people would rather vote for a milquetoast establishment politician than a bombastic populist incumbent tells you something about the latter's abilities as a leader.

More people chose Biden. More people liked him.

Trump lost. More people disliked him.

There's not much else to it.
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Old 01-09-2021, 05:10 AM
 
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Well some would say that believing a potus has a magic lever to control you 401k and home value is fantasy land. Think of it this way. Why is the market climbing while unemployment is soar8ng?
The dollar can be devalued almost overnight. Hyperinflation will result. It’s all part of the great reset. They want a new currency.
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Old 01-09-2021, 05:13 AM
 
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The dollar can be devalued almost overnight. Hyperinflation will result. It’s all part of the great reset. They want a new currency.
If a bunch of idiots decide they want to start a civil war because they can't accept losing one election and would rather believe fantasies about satanic child eating cabrals, then the dollar will tank and take a lot of the US' influence with it.
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Old 01-09-2021, 05:17 AM
 
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It doesn't matter how or why they preferred him, they voted for him. That more people would rather vote for a milquetoast establishment politician than a bombastic populist incumbent tells you something about the latter's abilities as a leader.

More people chose Biden. More people liked him.

Trump lost. More people disliked him.

There's not much else to it.
It does matter when you have 74 million loyalists following you even if you no longer hold a political position.

I was a Civil Affair officer in Iraq. When I want to get **** done, i always first approach a local Muslim cleric. They don't hold any political power like the mayor or politician, but they have the loyalty of local people. That's power.
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Old 01-09-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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It does matter when you have 74 million loyalists following you even if you no longer hold a political position.

I was a Civil Affair officer in Iraq. When I want to get **** done, i always first approach a local Muslim cleric. They don't hold any political power like the mayor or politician, but they have the loyalty of local people. That's power.
Thanks for your service. Trump still lost and our nation doesn't have any apparatus for catering to terrorists or separatists.
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Old 01-09-2021, 06:27 AM
 
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Think about it — we just had a peaceful election where a record 75 million people voted for a sitting president.

A few months later the sitting president with 75 million followers is being impeached for 2nd time.

I don’t follow politics THAT closely but my home and 401k are at record high yet my president is being impeached and vanquished from the internet.

Is this the real world?
No.,,,Something has been fishy with Wall Street for some years now. How is that millions worldwide are not working now or working less, yet Wall Street continues to climb. Something just doesn't make sense. We are not seeing the big picture.
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