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Old 01-11-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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1. Precedent. Groups who try to overturn the government who are not punished later go on to *actually* overturn the government. See: Nazis, Pinochet, Argentina. Consequence and accountability are part and parcel of being President. Impeachment reflect that.



2. Impeachment would prevent Trump from getting access to sensitive, secure materials. All former presidents are able to get intelligence briefings. It is not in America's best interest for that information to be shared with someone who tacitly supported an insurrection.



3. Money. Trump, and his grifter family, will get millions of dollars a year of taxpayer dollars for security and travel expenses. Impeachment means that service is limited to security solely for Trump, with no travel expenses for any of them.
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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To explain yet again:

It's to take away his ability to run again.

That's the reason.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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Let them go for it....Impeach him, even after he is out and it will show how mad dems are at trump. That they are willing to waste all that money to impeach someone who is no longer there.


But hey, keep it up anti-trumpers.
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No, it does not. Alan Dershowitz spoke to this yesterday.
Dershowitz Dashes Democrats' Impeachment Hopes

“The case cannot come to trial in the Senate, because the Senate has rules, and the rules would not allow the case to come to trial until, according to the majority leader, until 1 p.m. on January 20th, an hour after President Trump leaves office,” Dershowitz said on Fox News' “Sunday Morning Futures.”

He went on to argue that the Constitution doesn’t allow the impeachment of a former president.

“And the Constitution specifically says, ‘The President shall be removed from office upon impeachment.’ It doesn’t say the former president. Congress has no power to impeach or try a private citizen, whether it be a private citizen named Donald Trump or named Barack Obama or anyone else,” he said.
There is legal precedent for impeachment after leaving office. Belknap 1876 if you want to do some research. Not saying it means Trump will be impeached even if he’s gone, just saying it has happened and there’s precedent set so it could happen.

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Old 01-11-2021, 10:56 AM
 
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There is precedent for impeachment after leaving office. Belknap 1876 if you want to do some research. Not saying it means Trump will be impeached even if he’s gone, just saying it has happened and there’s legal precedent set that it could happen again.
Impeachment is something that is done by the House of Representatives, and that is entirely within the partisan power of the Democrats to do, for any legitimate reason or for none, the latter which would be the case in this instance, as long as the get it done before inauguration day.

As far as a trial in the Senate, it does not appear that it is likely to happen. Even if it did, the votes are not there for it to succeed. In any case, the Democrats are all about virtue signaling and emotional acting out. So even though it would be an entirely unprincipled, blatant abuse of power, the House can do what they are proposing, if they feel like it.
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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Impeachment is just charges...

you can accuse/charge someone for having sex with animals...anything.....it does not mean they are guilty of it

...it moves to the Senate.....that's the trial....and decides if you are innocent or guilty of the charges

Belknap was impeached...yes....but found innocent by the Senate
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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I don’t want the liar in chief to be paid with my tax dollars or to have access to our nations secrets
Trump never took a pay check. I bet biden will. Will you be happy with hunter, and camala having acccess to our secrets? I know I won`t.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:06 PM
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Because they are entirely unprincipled, lawless and out of control.
Pelosi is certifiably insane and totally unhinged. Schumer isn't much better.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:07 PM
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I don’t want the liar in chief to be paid with my tax dollars or to have access to our nations secrets
Well sorry, he got elected and the world's most famous plagiarizer will take office January 20th.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:08 PM
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Really? It's not just that he will be disgraced forever as the only President to be impeached twice, and not just that it makes it impossible for him to ever run for office again?

Take away his perks, oh heck yeah.

Please let him not continue to get Secret Service protection.
Pelosi disgraces herself with her clown shows.

Try to look up Barbara Jordan in the 1974 Nixon impeachment hearings. You will realize what a total clown Pelosi is.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:10 PM
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While never done before, The Constitution does allow for a President to be impeached and convicted after serving office.
No. It isn't clear that is legal.

Congress can do whatever it wants on that front, but it doesn't mean that it has any weight.
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