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Old 01-11-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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Curious thing that Pence, after all he has been through this past week, will not activate the 25th Amendment to have trump removed.

Makes me wonder if Pence had been complacent about things that he knew of trump for too long and should have done something instead of knowing about those things and doing nothing.

If so, Pence knows that trump knows that. Being afraid that trump will bring Pence down with him if he invokes the 25th, Pence remains silent and in hiding.

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Old 01-11-2021, 01:43 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Curious thing that Pence, after all he has been through this past week, will not activate the 25th Amendment to have trump removed.

Makes me wonder if Pence had been complacent about things that he knew of trump for too long and should have done something instead of knowing about those things and doing nothing.

If so, Pence knows that trump knows that. Being afraid that trump will bring Pence down with him if he invokes the 25th, Pence remains silent and in hiding.
Everyone needs to actually read Section4 of the 25th, which is is being referred to when calling for Pence to launch it.
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Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
First of all it specifies that the president be unable to discharge his duties, not that they don’t like how he is discharging it. So there is a dispute whether it legitimately applies in the first place.

But... look at some of those time points. If a Trump disputes it you are looking at potentially 21-28 days process. Not exactly quick and think of what fury would it unleash during the process. No, if they are going to do it, it needs to be impeachment that would also ban future public office.
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