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Old 01-11-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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https://thehill.com/video/in-the-new...-america-rally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht20eDYmLXU
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-alli...ry?id=75119209
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/u...eech-riot.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=75110558
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/2221720...election-pence
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ify-his-defeat
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...capitol-attack
https://www.vox.com/22220746/trump-s...e-capitol-riot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...sual-timeline/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/u...h-capitol.html

Pathetic Trumpsters in denial are pathetic.
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Old 01-11-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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People want proof.

There is none. It's just msm being msm.
People want proof? You mean like actual proof an election was stolen? LOL. You just cant make this stuff up. If more folks lived overseas and could sea how Trump is being mocked.

He has disgraced our nation and people still stand by him. incredible.
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Old 01-11-2021, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Actually no it's not.
From my first link above:
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As a person with good lawyers and experience being investigated, Trump would undoubtedly claim these comments were nothing more than First-Amendment-protected political speech if he were charged with encouraging the mob to commit seditious conspiracy. But that might not help. In 1969, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Brandenberg v Ohio, found that the government can punish inflammatory speech when it is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

Trump passes the test. As his statements make clear, he brought the members of the mob to D.C. He convened them at a rally; he and others inflamed the audience with lies about a stolen election and their duty to save the country from the certification that was underway at that moment. He pointed them at the Capitol and persuaded them to “do something about it.” He offered to go with them. He had every reason to believe his rhetoric would lead to violence in the same way it did at his rally on December 12.
No, according to Brandenberg v Ohio you do not need to explicitly say, "Everybody go and riot!" in order to be charged with inciting a riot.
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Old 01-11-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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Pathetic that you posted that many links and read none.


From your first link:


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However, the crime posing the biggest problem for the president could be having solicited the mob into a seditious conspiracy.

Could be....NEXT...


Pathetic trump haters...but what can we expect.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Pathetic that you posted that many links and read none.

From your first link:

Could be....NEXT...

Pathetic trump haters...but what can we expect.
Do you not know that kind of language is standard journalistic practice for anyone who has not been sentenced and convicted for a crime?

It appears you aren't.

It's like when the police catch a murder suspect and it makes the news, they say the suspect 'allegedly' murdered such-and-such person in such-and-such situation. But that doesn't mean they're innocent.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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here's a short 1 minute clip for those of you with attention deficit disorder..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fiT6c0MQ58
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I watched Trumps speech he said nothing that would instigate a riot. I am sorry that the people who did riot but they went there with that in mind. His speech woudl have caused me to do nothing but walk to the Capitol, peacefully.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:23 PM
 
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So, why are they not playing exactly what trump said to the mob?

It's because they cannot.....pretty simple.

What trump said is no worse that kamala stating (paraphrased) go riot, we are getting your bail money through gofundme.....so do what you need to do....
What are you talking about? Again, it's literally all anyone has been talking about.

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Old 01-11-2021, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He told those jackholes to fight. He would walk down to the capitol with them, which he didn't.

What do you think fight means?
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