Most masculine person to ever hold the White House?? (Reagan, legal, death)

[jmking]

Originally Posted by MostlyPeacefulProtestor

And Teddy Roosevelt got shot in the chest and did a 90 minute speech anyways, with a .38 caliber bullet in his chest.

https://www.history.com/news/shot-in...ept-on-talking

Teddy was a remarkable person. He had a crazy amount of energy. He once got up one morning while in Europe and decided to climb the Matterhorn mountain and was back at his hotel by dinner. As a kid he ascended Mount Vesuvius.

[BoSox 15]

I don't know what's happening here but this is not masculine.

[irish_bob]

Originally Posted by Clemencia53

George Bush Sr was a fighter pilot - so he would be on the top ten?

very true but he carried himself with a quiet dignity

perhaps the OP is thinking of a strident John Wayne type figure ?

would Lyndon Johnson fit the bill ?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

Gerald Ford was the captain of back-to-back national championship winning college football teams at Michigan. Then he became a football and boxing coach before fighting in the Pacific in WWII as a highly decorated lieutenant commander.

And sacrificed his political life by pardoning Nixon for the good of the country.

Personally, I think we tend to conflate 'masculine' with 'macho'.

I tend to think of it as people having character and integrity I respect and admire. While the gender qualifier 'masculine' certainly applies to holding the White House so far, I think the same standards should apply to women as well.

[homina12]

Originally Posted by burdell

I think there's nothing 'masculine' at all about an allegedly adult male behaving like a spoiled little 6 year old brat.

I know a couple of highly insulted 6 year olds who are way beyond mean tweeting you.

[Ralph_Kirk]

Originally Posted by jmking

Teddy was a remarkable person. He had a crazy amount of energy. He once got up one morning while in Europe and decided to climb the Matterhorn mountain and was back at his hotel by dinner. As a kid he ascended Mount Vesuvius.

And he was a sickly kid.

[jmking]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

And he was a sickly kid.

Which is what motivated him later in life. The man traveled the Nile river and the Amazon River which almost killed him. I think the later most likely shortened his life.

[Clemencia53]

Originally Posted by irish_bob

very true but he carried himself with a quiet dignity

perhaps the OP is thinking of a strident John Wayne type figure ?

would Lyndon Johnson fit the bill ?

no - I was quoting one of the current POTUS' press secretary that made this claim during an interview with Fox News.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by irish_bob

very true but he carried himself with a quiet dignity

perhaps the OP is thinking of a strident John Wayne type figure ?

I'd say that's a good comparison between a man of character doing what needed to be done and some scriptwriter's idea of what people wanted to see.

Originally Posted by irish_bob

would Lyndon Johnson fit the bill ?

Not IMO. He seemed more concerned with what would benefit him than with what was the right thing to do. i.e. I've read a number of times one of his motivations for escalating our involvement in Vietnam was a fear of appearing soft on Communism, not so much that he really considered Vietnam a true threat to the US other than paying lip service to the 'Domino Theory' which even as a high school student I believed was nonsense given the combined land mass/populations of the big communist threats of the day, the USSR and China made the size/population of Vietnam look like a speck of dust in comparison.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by BoSox 15

I don't know what's happening here but this is not masculine.

Looks like a demonstration of the theory that 'White Men Can't Dance'.