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Old 01-16-2021, 07:20 AM
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This summer we had people whining about Posse Comitatus when Trump offered to send a few hundred troops to cities where mobs were burning down entire city blocks. But that’s in the past. What I want to know is how it’s legal to use 30k troops for domestic policing? I know there are some exceptions but I don’t see any that apply. What state governor requested them for use in their state? How is this legal?
In this case, they're guarding federal buildings, which isn't just standard policing.

Guarding federal buildings is kind of their entire purpose.
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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In this case, they're guarding federal buildings, which isn't just standard policing.

Guarding federal buildings is kind of their entire purpose.
what do you mean guarding federal buildings isn't standard policing?

what is standard policing to you?
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:25 AM
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If the mob attacks mayor light foot house it’s -soldiers and cops- if they attack your house it’s -social workers
You've been misinformed.

The social workers are for if you call because your mentally ill teen, who is unarmed, is throwing kitchen chairs around again and won't calm down. And in that case, you'd get a social worker and a cop. Not 6 cops.
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:28 AM
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what do you mean guarding federal buildings isn't standard policing?

what is standard policing to you?
Standard policing would be traffic duty including DWI and other traffic offenses, serving arrest warrants, beat cop duty, answering calls from people for burglary, robbery, murder, suspicious behavior, domestic assault, well checks, missing persons, I could go on.

You're a cop. Surely you know the typical functions cops serve.

The national guard, in this case, is being called to stand guard over federal buildings. Which is their job. And sometimes done by cops in the absence of forewarning or other agencies.

(Didn't you say you are a cop? Maybe it was a different poster)
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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Funny how the left cried wolf when Trump wanted a military parade . But China Biden and his cronies show a force of 30k military just to get him rigged in there shows how authoritarian they really are . So pathetic , they know nobody would show up for him because nobody likes the Manchurian candidate .
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:31 AM
 
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Are they armed?
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:31 AM
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Funny how the left cried wolf when Trump wanted a military parade . But China Biden and his cronies show a force of 30k military just to get him rigged in there shows how authoritarian they really are . So pathetic , they know nobody would show up for him because nobody likes the Manchurian candidate .
Cried wolf?
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:36 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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In this case, they're guarding federal buildings, which isn't just standard policing.

Guarding federal buildings is kind of their entire purpose.
That's an interesting argument, because when the NG is used in a federal capacity then CP applies, which means they can't be used against US Civilians. The link I posted before is a good legal read on the subject and was written in response to Trump's proposed use of the NG.
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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I wouldn't want it under-protected. I'm just asking - how is it legal to use national guard forces from other states to police Washington DC and on what legal authority are they doing it - and whose?
With the knowledge that the Militia of the United States is the United States National Guard:

"The Congress shall have the power...to provide for calling forth the Militia to Execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections, and repel Invasions." US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15.

"The Congress shall have the power...to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress." US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16.

"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States." US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1.
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Are they armed?
Not only are they armed but have been authorized to use lethal force:

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