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Old 01-17-2021, 04:16 PM
 
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RIP. I guess that they may have been better not receiving the vaccine. Rushed vaccines are always a risk .

https://www.businesstoday.in/current...ry/428119.html
You're almost certainly guessing wrong, and run the risk of contributing to the death of any elderly person who heeds your advice.

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University of Auckland vaccinologist Helen Petousis-Harris said there's no indication the two are linked and the virus itself poses a much greater threat to the age bracket.

"I think this is something that we have expected," she told Newshub. "When you start vaccinating the extremely elderly - these are very, very frail people - you are, by chance, going to see deaths occurring shortly after.

Petousis-Harris said the deaths were most likely a coincidence.

"There's no indication that these deaths were unexpected - they're very, very elderly, frail people," she said. "There's also no indication that there are any more deaths than you would expect.

"In these people, the risk of dying from COVID is about two or three out of every 10 cases."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world...ay-expert.html

 
Old 01-17-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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It appears those types of vaccines can have nasty side effects, which if happens in elderly can be that much more deadly.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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RIP. I guess that they may have been better not receiving the vaccine. Rushed vaccines are always a risk .



https://www.businesstoday.in/current...ry/428119.html
23 older individuals -- what percentage is that of total older individuals vaccinated and how does that compare to the general death rate of folks in that age group
 
Old 01-17-2021, 04:45 PM
 
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RIP. I guess that they may have been better not receiving the vaccine. Rushed vaccines are always a risk .



https://www.businesstoday.in/current...ry/428119.html
Hate to say this, but I am not surprised.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 05:15 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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That does not change the fact that the vaccine was what killed them. They most likely would have lived longer. Im sure they were technically labeled as Covid deaths.
The article doesn't say that at all. In fact, it says the exact opposite in the second sentence.. "There is no confirmation yet if there is direct correlation between the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 jab and these deaths." So let's stop with the clickbait threads.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 05:25 PM
 
Location: NYC
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This happens with any vaccine, even before covid. Like I tell many folks, whether you are vaccinated or not it doesn't make you immune. If you are healthy before and after the vaccine, you probably don't really need it.

People who aren't healthy won't be healthier with the vaccine.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 05:35 PM
 
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The op says that 23 died after receiving the vaccine. That’s true. You’re going to have to wait for cause of death and hope to god for a fair investigation.
Do you understand that 10s of thousands (and very likely, a large fraction being elderly) received the vaccine in Norway? If you take 10 thousand 80+ years olds (general population, no vaccines) , and observe them for a month what do you think will happen? I'll wait.


Here is a hint:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/old...can-health.htm
 
Old 01-17-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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Do you understand that 10s of thousands (and very likely, a large fraction being elderly) received the vaccine in Norway? If you take 10 thousand 80+ years olds (general population, no vaccines) , and observe them for a month what do you think will happen? I'll wait.


Here is a hint:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/old...can-health.htm
23 people died after 33,000 received the vaccine in Norway.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tients-over-80

If 23 out of 33,000 elderly people over the age of 80 died after getting covid, the same people dismissing their deaths after a vaccine and chalking it up to, “they were going to die anyway” would be talking about how awful it was that they died from covid and how they could have lived for weeks or months or years longer, if not for Covid.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 06:16 PM
 
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23 people died after 33,000 received the vaccine in Norway.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tients-over-80

If 23 out of 33,000 elderly people over the age of 80 died after getting covid, the same people dismissing their deaths after a vaccine and chalking it up to, “they were going to die anyway” would be talking about how awful it was that they died from covid and how they could have lived for weeks or months or years longer, if not for Covid.
They didn't die intubated, anesthetized, and naked on their bellies, though.
 
Old 01-17-2021, 06:43 PM
 
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This happens with any vaccine, even before covid. Like I tell many folks, whether you are vaccinated or not it doesn't make you immune. If you are healthy before and after the vaccine, you probably don't really need it.

People who aren't healthy won't be healthier with the vaccine.
Nobody thinks the vaccine will make an unhealthy person healthier. But it will very likely prevent you from dying of Covid. If you are very old and unhealthy there's a 10-20% chance that Covid will kill you. And it's not a pleasant way to go.
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