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Old 01-17-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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I am baffled by those who compare the Capitol mob with the riots this past summer. I grant that they are two different forms of rioting. The biggest difference and the one that makes irrelevant any comparison is that the Capitol building riot was a product of a rally featuring the president of the United States, the leader of the free world. That's what makes it individually historic.
No it wasn’t a “product” of a Trump rally. FBI investigations found it was planned well in advance of the rally.
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Old 01-17-2021, 04:56 PM
 
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Correct. +1

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I am baffled by those who compare the Capitol mob with the riots this past summer. I grant that they are two different forms of rioting. The biggest difference and the one that makes irrelevant any comparison is that the Capitol building riot was a product of a rally featuring the president of the United States, the leader of the free world. That's what makes it individually historic.
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:34 PM
 
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Video of insurrectionists stealing documents on the senate floor. “I think Cruz would want us to do this so I think we’re good.” Great work,
@tedcruz




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=270F8s5TEKY
Donald Trump's supporters are a "basket of deplorables."
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:36 PM
 
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Donald Trump's supporters are a "basket of deplorables."

WOW, you had to go deep to think about this..
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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No it wasn’t a “product” of a Trump rally. FBI investigations found it was planned well in advance of the rally.
It was actually a combination of a couple of factors. One factor was two months of Trump proclaiming the election was rigged and there was widespread voter fraud that kept him from being named the election winner by a landslide margin. The second factor was the rally where Trump told his followers to go to the Capitol building. They may someday find that there was some pre-arranged plan to go to the Capitol building but without Trump's two months of inciteful proclamations the riot would never have happened. Making the Capitol riot entirely different than the riots of the summer.
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:50 PM
 
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If we want to know what really happened, wait for the SNL skit. Alec Baldwin will play the horned guy, and Matt Damon can be the black guy that was just there to document it.
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:19 AM
 
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Absolutely no excuse for this behavior to occur especially when they were looking to come into the Capitol to take out Pelosi and/or Pence.

This will be another excellent piece of evidence to put to trial Trump and those involved.
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Old 01-18-2021, 06:23 AM
 
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Roger Stone, long time political operative, convicted felon whose sentence was commuted by Trump last year, originated “ Stop the Steal” during the 2016 Primaries. At the same time Trump frequently communicated if he did not get the nomination his followers would riot and become violent.

Stone created a Stop the Steal web site which inspired the creation of various Face Book groups.

Once the 2016 nomination was secured, Stop the Steal targeted the 2016 election. Meanwhile, Trump was communicating if he loses, it would be the result of a rigged system, including the unconstitutional Electoral College. There was a lot of online chatter about an armed revolution if Trump lost the 2016 election.

There are hundreds of examples of Trump subsequently referring to the violence that would happen if / if not Fill in the Blank that persisted into the 2020 Election.

Trump consistently stoked the fire.

Not clear what Trump thought would happen when he set the dogs loose on The Capital. I cannot imagine Trump imagined the invasion that followed his 1/6 rally.

Why did he not accompany his base as he said he would? Why did he instead retreat to the WH? And what did he do for hours that was more important than stoping the siege? What was going on while Congress Critters and aides were desperately begging for help from him, his Chief of Staff, his Cabinet, the Pentagon, Ivanka, Jarret and even Kellyanne who no longer worked for Trump.
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Old 01-18-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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Did you see the worst part? They were praying .. the left hates that !!
For the record,

I believe in God. I am a Christian... I am a Democrat.
I left the Republican party years ago because I could not with conscience vote for the GOP anymore.

It's really sad that you think this is God's way and that these people are Christians....
These poor, lost people are not representatives of the "moral majority".

How many mass murderers thought they were hearing from God?

"First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people,
for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.
This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,..."


1 TIMOTHY 2:2

Let me summarize this passage... ^^^

Pray, live a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.
It doesn't mention hate, violence, murder and insurrection.
Does it?

Below is an excellent article about Trump, from one of the founders of the Moral Majority...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...hat-we-wanted/

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Old 01-18-2021, 07:15 AM
 
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The VIDEO is twelve minutes. And as angering as the video is - it also has some excellent pictures of the rioters and probably eliminates many of their defenses where they try to say they just walked around innocently.

By the way - a couple of blocks in downtown Seattle is not the same as our nation's Capitol building. Not even close. These are clearly not "peaceful protesters" building a gallows.

And Cruz is probably not loving their impression that Cruz wants them to do what they are doing.



No it's not. Still the same thing though, they took over part of a city to get what they wanted. Didn't the mayor or something like that have to move because of the harassment?






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On Tuesday evening and into the early morning hours of Wednesday, a series of intense skirmishes broke out between federal law enforcement and protesters. Some on the front lines of the protests were repeatedly trying to tear, pound away and ignite the plywood attached to the courthouse front.

Setting fire and then trying to quick create the door shut....all to get what they wanted....


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Seattle rioters used a substance suspected to be quick-dry concrete to seal shut the door to the East Precinct, the Seattle Police Department has confirmed. At the same time, rioters attempted to set fire to the building. Photos reviewed by the Jason Rantz Show show the concrete mix and tools used.

I just want to get this right, the police department is part of the government, yes?
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