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Old 01-18-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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"sun rose in the east during his entire presidency"
#136 "Made comment while in line at Cracker Barrel that he really believes Pluto should still be a planet"
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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As of Nov. 23, Trump had granted clemency 44 times, including 28 pardons and 16 commutations. That’s the lowest total of any president since at least William McKinley, who served at the turn of the 20th century. Obama, by comparison, granted clemency 1,927 times during his eight-year tenure, including 212 pardons and 1,715 commutations.
Careful-you'll be "cancelled". Obama is the messiah, his actions are not to be scrutinized.
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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For sure some of the rioters. Wonder if it's against the law to receive money for pardons like he's doing. Nah, prolly not. Especially in the Trumplandia.
Is he actually the one who is receiving money for pardons? Do you know or is it just another 'someone said'?

Seems the Clinton family and friends received money for lobbying pardons for others. Up to six figures per pardon, what a racket. IMO, that practice should have not been allowed, but it was because it's legal. Did you call the Clinton administration a nasty name too? Maybe even Obama had done it, does he get a nasty name now? Why didn't you rant back then?



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-exp...141003200.html
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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And I'm sure Miss Riley Williams will be preemptively pardoned as she delivers "Pelosi's hard drive" to the Russian government:

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55711200
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually, that's not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich

Never served a day in jail.
Donated lots to the right people directly and via his wife.
Pardoned while on the FBI 10 most wanted list.
I agree that Rich shouldn't have been pardoned.

trump has already pardoned several people for keeping their mouths shut or for political reasons. There will likely be dozens more Wednesday. Care to comment on those?
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:42 PM
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Well, if it's true that Trump intends only to pardon people who will be useful to him post-presidency, those Capitol rioters are up the proverbial creek.

*come ooooonnnnnnnnnnn Wednesday*
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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I agree that Rich shouldn't have been pardoned.

trump has already pardoned several people for keeping their mouths shut or for political reasons. There will likely be dozens more Wednesday. Care to comment on those?
1) There are typically a fair number of pardons made for political reasons, not a big fan of them but they're not uncommon.

2) Sorry, but no, I do not care to comment on pardons that are "likely" to be made Wednesday. I like to wait for my reality instead of pre-fabricating one that suits me.
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Old 01-18-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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1) There are typically a fair number of pardons made for political reasons, not a big fan of them but they're not uncommon.

2) Sorry, but no, I do not care to comment on pardons that are "likely" to be made Wednesday. I like to wait for my reality instead of pre-fabricating one that suits me.
Fair number for political reasons? How many of Obama's would you classify that way? And you're math guy, so what percentage?

trump has already issued several like Stone Manafort, Flynn, Arpaio that were purely political. Or payoffs for keeping their mouths shut.
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Old 01-18-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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Fair number for political reasons? How many of Obama's would you classify that way? And you're math guy, so what percentage?

trump has already issued several like Stone Manafort, Flynn, Arpaio that were purely political. Or payoffs for keeping their mouths shut.
Yea but "Muh both sides!!"

#enlightenedcenterism
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Old 01-18-2021, 03:01 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I really hope trump pardons himself. It would the cherry on top of the worst presidency in history and an admission of guilt.
Yes, and then we'd get the final word from the Supreme Court: "Are you kidding? You can't do that. What, do you think we're stupid?" Then he's in even more trouble than he already is!
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