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Old 02-03-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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100%.

Neocons are bad, a cult of personality is worse.

Agreed. If Trump supporters want his populists ideas to survive and be the dominant force in the party, they need to get rid of Trump and this blind devotion to him.
Just as important, they need to end this stupid belief in conspiracy theories, Q, etc.
People like Greene should not become the face of the party.
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Old 02-03-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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Democrats: Republicans you must cancel Marjorie Taylor Greene (and Cruze and Hawley). You must not cancel Liz Cheney.

Whatever democrats say we should do, we should do the exact opposite.
Both ladies should be held accountable by their constituents. Cheney has two sets of constituents - the voters of Wyoming and the Republican House caucus. Greene just has one, the voters of her district. In both cases, these women are elected to represent the people who voted for them. If they do not do that correctly, then it makes sense that their constituents will want to replace them with someone else.

I am not a fan of the rhetoric of either of these women. However, the idea that the whole House is going to start cancelling members for making outrageous and over the top statements is the pinnacle of absurdity, partisan hypocrisy and double standards. They do it constantly and we have fresh new threads here in this forum discussing the latest rhetorical outrages by these people almost every single day it seems.

The Republican caucus is acting in an entirely appropriate manner to remove Liz Cheney as one of their leaders if she is not faithfully representing that group, which it clearly appears that she has not been.
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Old 02-03-2021, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
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It's good a politician is working to sacrifice their own self interest for the greater good.
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Old 02-03-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's good a politician is working to sacrifice their own self interest for the greater good.
Yes it is nice to see a politician put her integrity above her reelection. Quite a step above Hawley and Cruz who did exactly the opposite.

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Old 02-03-2021, 01:09 PM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 21 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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How did I miss this post? So much misinformation.

Massive aerospace and defense companies are undermining our national security because they are diversifying supply chains to lower costs (remember, they are on the stock market).

https://www.theamericanconservative....-the-military/

Liz Cheney doesn't care, she supports war not for local industries, but to spread democracy. The more democratic countries, the more investment opportunities there are for multinational companies looking to undermine national sovereignty.

That is what the neocons want, and Liz is positioning herself to become the next speaker of the house. Trump supporters want nationalist policies, it is a fight for control of the GOP.

Don't fall for their lies.
Read your article and it pretty much supports what I said that available suppliers and skills sets are shrinking and to reduce or close these military contracts would lead to the loss of that production capability. Congress needs to change the laws to not only ensure the companies remain but that others are brought back. In the last 4 years all we have seen is Trump Inc expand his business presence in China for himself and family members with no concern for American Industries or farmers.

As for Senator Cheney deal with it, we haven't heard her name in years but now that she is unwilling to go along with the Kool-Aid bunch she must be sacrificed on the alter of Republican Morals & Values as an example.. Spare me Republican Morals & Values is about the biggest oxymoron I have heard in a long time they sold their soul to the devil and now its time for them to dance on the head of a pin....

Good Luck...

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Old 02-03-2021, 01:11 PM
 
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I’m just curious as to who gave her the advice to try and impeach a guy who 74 million people had just voted for?

Is the left going to help her now? No, they consider her a useful idiot and are laughing at her now.

Know what side you are on.
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:12 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The GOP are doing this then huh?

Clinging to the coattails of a twice impeached one term president. Conservative republicans are going to have to find a new home.


Let them actually act fiscally conservative and leave the social issues alone and I'm in.
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:14 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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This is what happens when one branch of the government yields to another....

If this were Nixon's time, a whole bunch of Republicans would have given the boot for simply doing the right thing.
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:15 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Rep. Matt Gaetz: We Have the Votes to Remove Anti-Trumper Liz Cheney from GOP House Leadership

Trump-hater Liz Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, serves as the Republican House Conference Chair – the third-highest Republican position in the US House of Representatives.

Two weeks ago Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, without due process, on bogus charges, based on lies that he started a riot at the Capitol on January 6th. Liz announced her decision on House Conference Chair stationary.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...se-leadership/

So, were you singing the 'due process' blues when Greene was saying elected officials should be executed without it or does trampling the Constitution not trigger your feigned outrage?
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Why?

Because she is a neocon?

People here said she is a true conservative, that is not what neocon means.

She wants political stability so that she can wage more wars. Matt Gaetz is against foriegn interventions, look at the side you are on, not just the optics.
If you're on the side of Gaetz, then that's not exactly the right side.
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