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That's not the first time that JLo has put her ethnicity above her Americanism.
Jennifer Lopez's ethnicity is Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican is an American ethnicity.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
You actually think that is ok at a presidential inagural with most being English speakers in the audience that any part of that should be sang or addressed in a foreign language?
It's not a foreign language. Spanish is an official language of Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico is part of the United States. Puerto Ricans aren't foreigners.
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Originally Posted by jjrose
It was one fricken sentence. She did not sing the entire song in Spanish. She did not give a speech in Spanish. ONE sentence and people are acting like it's the end of the world.
Exactly. And the line she did say in Spanish was from the Pledge of Allegiance. If someone wanted to read politics into it, it'd read as loyalty to America, in the context of the historical debate about whether or not Puerto Rico should continue as a US territory.
She even kept the "under God," which you'd think would make these conservatives happy, lol.
Don't follow pop music, 'knew' Gaga was a 'legend' - astonished at the power of her voice. First time I've ever heard her sing. Loved her performance and the emotion put into it.
The prolonged flag gesture particularly meaningful and appropriate given the horrific trauma this country has undergone the past four years culminating with the deadly insurrection two weeks ago - we almost lost our government.
I thought Gaga was absolutely great. I would have loved to have heard Gaga do Amazing Grace with that amazing voice of hers.
Or, alternatively, Trace, JLo and Gaga - should have performed it together. Now that would have been something. Trace's voice, however, probably not up to those two powerhouses.
Other countries don't "bend a knee" to you, they are smart enough to realize that their language isn't the only language in the region and require children to learn English. Similarly, children here should be required to learn Spanish as Mexico is our closest non-English speaking neighbor.
Wrong. You are forgetting about Quebec.
Drive up the NYS Northway up around Plattsburgh and you will see highway signs in French.
Yes, and even MORE are native English speakers. As pointed out by other posters, English fluency is a requirement for the citizenship test, so if you talking about reaching out to actual "Americans" and not just every warm body on American soil, English covers it.
Further, millions of people are non-English speakers in the US, so should Inauguration singers cover those languages as well?
I understand that you and many others may not be from the US so you don't necessarily know that there are exemptions from English fluency for the citizenship test. You may also know that Americans born here are not required to take the citizenship test.
Most of what she spoke was in English. She chose to speak one sentence in Spanish to reach those Americans (which is a large amount) in their native language.
Your suggestion that singers should cover all languages of Americans is liberal ludicrousness on your part. One singer wanted to say one sentence in one of our other dominant languages. That doesn't mean others should have to do the same.
Total BS. Gaga outed herself as an elitist hypocrite anti-Constitutional Marxist when she sang the anti-private property 'This Land is Your Land' Marxist protest song at the Super Bowl.
There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
The sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn’t say nothing;
That side was made for you and me.
FYI - the part in the brackets of your 2nd quote is incorrect. Seeger did NOT write "This Land is Your Land," Woody Guthrie wrote it.
If you knew anything about both Seeger and Guthrie, you'd know they were both heavily involved in the Union movement pre-WWII. Seeger was at one time a member of the Young Communist League.
Not that I would walk across the street to see Biden, but neither would I walk across the street to see any of the "entertainment," either. Things started going downhill after Led Zeppelin. Or Aretha Franklin, if you're into soul/R&B. Now we have the jokes you hear today. Cheap strumpet look with very little talent caterwauling over a synced drum machine and computer orchestra... and pitch correction.
As far as Spanish pledge... why not just go ahead and belt it out in French, German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, Gaelic, Frisian, Breton, Hungarian, Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Basque, Guaraní, Kalaallisut, Navajo, Catalan, Dutch, Scots, Swahili, etc, etc, etc???
Why leave people out? We're all represented here, right? Have to catch ALL of us... in lieu of growing a brain and actually speaking the common language of the nation.
En nasjon, under Gud, udelelig, med frihet og rettferdighet for alle....
Inclusion, inclusion, we MUST have inclusion. Each person in the US MUST speak 100 plus languages so as not to leave anyone out.
As far as Spanish pledge... why not just go ahead and belt it out in French, German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, Gaelic, Frisian, Breton, Hungarian, Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Basque, Guaraní, Kalaallisut, Navajo, Catalan, Dutch, Scots, Swahili, etc, etc, etc???
Why leave people out? We're all represented here, right? Have to catch ALL of us... in lieu of growing a brain and actually speaking the common language of the nation.
En nasjon, under Gud, udelelig, med frihet og rettferdighet for alle....
Inclusion, inclusion, we MUST have inclusion. Each person in the US MUST speak 100 plus languages so as not to leave anyone out.
That's an interesting view that you have. Not that I agree with your views as you've laid them out.
At least 2 languages is more inclusive than one. It covers 85% of the population.
i'm always amused when people get offended by those who speak another language.
The US is about inclusion, welcoming outsiders who don't speak english.
You might argue that the inauguration is supposed to be in english, but there are no rules requiring that.
There's a lot of leeway for what a president can do for his inaugural celebration.
Probably the only thing that has to be in english is the actual oath.
and besides... the inaugurals have been in english entirely because the participants have never bothered to learn another language. Not because they are required to do the whole thing in english.
come on now, don't be so close minded.
You're probably the same people who go to other non-english speaking countries and get pissed when they don't speak english.
I always get amused when someone thinks that all occasions are a reason or is ok to speak in a foreign language especially when they know English themselves and are speaking to a mostly English crowd. She sure didn't include them! There is a time and place for everything. A presidential inaugural is one of those occasions where it makes no sense and is actually being rude to the majority there that are mostly English speakers and it is our national de facto language, not Spanish or anything else.
Most Hispanic citizens know English and only citizens can vote so just what was JLo's point except to snub the majority in the crowd? She's always been an over the top ethnocentric Hispanic anyway. Her ethnicity outweighs her Americanism. She flouts it like a medal of honor. Nothing wrong with being proud of your ethnic roots but it shouldn't be on full display under all circumstances. The political area should always be in a language that most people understand along with the fact that English is our national de facto language anyway.
It's not about rules but common sense and not being rude. Are you actually suggesting that native U.S. citizen native English speakers should learn a foreign languages even though they have no desire to and because they would have no need for it in their daily lives? What a waste of time! Should they learn all hundred of the foreign languages spoken by a minority of people in this country just to accomodate them? Shouldn't immigrants learn our language instead since they chose to move to our country? You make no sense at all!
No, I don't operate by a double standard. I would never move to another country and expect them accomodate me in English. I would learn their language and speak it as often as I could out of respect for their national language and their citizens.
So singers don't have to be good at singing any more? Why does it not surprise me that you feel this way?
Lol, like it’s so important to me.
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She sure didn't include them! There is a time and place for everything. A presidential inaugural is one of those occasions where it makes no sense and is actually being rude to the majority there that are mostly English speakers and it is our national de facto language, not Spanish or anything else.