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Old 01-21-2021, 06:06 AM
 
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There were several accomplishments, that's true. Some of the stuff he did to streamline building procedures so construction wouldn't take so long, the Israeli peace deal, etc.

I can't forgive how he ripped our country apart, through. Throughout his presidency and especially his last year, he made it clear who the chosen people were, and separated them out from the rest of us.

And then, further ripping us asunder by somehow convincing his followers that there was vote fraud, probably forever losing a large swath of right voters who think they were robbed by the election.

And of course, the icing on the cake when he took out a crowd hit on Pence.

Yes, I can say he was the worst president in the history of the country for those reasons. He's ruined a large part of his base, for ever participating positively in the country again, and making them forever rageful castouts.
It was the Dem`s that ripped the country apart, the day Trump took office.
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:08 AM
 
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Most of this is not true, spun and twisted by trumpets grasping for straws and easily verifiable by anyone willing to take the time to look. Its just a lot easier for trumpets to cut and paste lies to rile the base.
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Why is it that Trump fans rush to praise him for low prices every winter when the oil companies transition to the cheaper to produce winter blends? Then rush to remind us that the president has no control over gas prices when the oil companies transition back to the more expensive to produce summer blend and prices rise?

The housing market is wonderful, as long as you aren't a first-time buyer, trying to get approved for a $300,000 mortgage on a 800 square foot house. Or God forbid in a more expensive market. Heck, even in my smaller city, where about 60% of the population makes less than $10 an hour, we are fast approaching a median home price of $200k. But hey, enjoy the bubble while it lasts.

Define what you mean by North Korea "behaving". They never launched an attack against the US or our allies before Trump. They didn't during Trump. It's highly unlikely they will after Trump.

ISIS has not been heard from? As opposed to before Trump, when they were terrorizing your neighborhood? It's almost like a pandemic killing 400,000 Americans while the president downplays it takes presidence over a militant group on the other side of the world who only ever killed a small handful.

But hey, no worries. At least unemployment is only 6.7%. Too bad all of those people also lost their healthcare. I'm sure Trump's healthcare plan would have prevented that, if he had ever bothered to produce one.



If you're a first time buyer, $300k is way too much for you to be financing.

And if that's how much an 800 sq ft house costs where you live.......for Gods sake, MOVE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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If you're a first time buyer, $300k is way too much for you to be financing.

And if that's how much an 800 sq ft house costs where you live.......for Gods sake, MOVE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
The problem with your solution is explained in my very next sentence. If everyone from these markets moves to an area with lower cost of living, what is going to happen? Prices are going to skyrocket, and locals will end up priced out. After all, their wages are lower, since the cost of living is lower. It's happening frequently here in Idaho. It's not uncommon for houses to sell to out of state buyers, sight unseen, within two days of going on the market.

"Move somewhere else" is an extremely short-sighted solution, which has unfortunate trickle down effects of its own.
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Old 01-21-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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Why is it that Trump fans rush to praise him for low prices every winter when the oil companies transition to the cheaper to produce winter blends? Then rush to remind us that the president has no control over gas prices when the oil companies transition back to the more expensive to produce summer blend and prices rise?

The housing market is wonderful, as long as you aren't a first-time buyer, trying to get approved for a $300,000 mortgage on a 800 square foot house. Or God forbid in a more expensive market. Heck, even in my smaller city, where about 60% of the population makes less than $10 an hour, we are fast approaching a median home price of $200k. But hey, enjoy the bubble while it lasts.

Define what you mean by North Korea "behaving". They never launched an attack against the US or our allies before Trump. They didn't during Trump. It's highly unlikely they will after Trump.

ISIS has not been heard from? As opposed to before Trump, when they were terrorizing your neighborhood? It's almost like a pandemic killing 400,000 Americans while the president downplays it takes presidence over a militant group on the other side of the world who only ever killed a small handful.

But hey, no worries. At least unemployment is only 6.7%. Too bad all of those people also lost their healthcare. I'm sure Trump's healthcare plan would have prevented that, if he had ever bothered to produce one.
If that is the case for your city , it's definitely time to make a move. Unfortunately, one has to travel to where the work is...depending on what one does.
Just another reason I love MI. $300k will get you a brand new house in a cookie cutter subdivision in the metro Detroit area. Or if one is okay with a 30 to 45 minute drive and an older home can be had in a rural area on a couple of acres.
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Old 01-21-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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who cares..

we tried the same thing when Obama left office but the other side didnt care because of his birth certificate, Michelle’s arms and dividing the country like never before..

yet 4 years later the crazies stormed the capitol...

no cares about your gas prices and stock markets.. he’s gone. Its over.
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:04 AM
 
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so those people that stormed the capital building were democrats? i'm not sure how you could tell that from the tv....
Sure seems that way!


Ever heard of the 'Recihstag fire'....nazis blamed those they hated...turned out, it was the Nazis that set the fire in the first place,( the whole plan was to blame their enemies).
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:41 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Most of that list Trump had nothing to do with. Other than not getting into any new wars. But how can you when you're fighting a war on your homefront with a virus?
Actually Trump has EVERYTHING to do with the economy and gas prices. Leaving the Paris Accord and reducing regulations was excellent for gas prices and thanks to his policies America is now the top oil and gas producer in the world, above even Saudi Arabia. This not only helps the economy and recreates well paying jobs for people without a 4 year college degree, it also reduces our dependence on the Middle East and reduces the need for military intervention abroad.

Renegotiating unfair trade agreements has brought some manufacturing jobs back to the US. Liberals support unfair trade agreements designed to put other countries in a dominant position over the US in order to redistribute jobs and wealth abroad. Reducing illegal immigration also increases wages. Remember that no matter what the minimum wage is set at, illegal aliens will work below it.
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:50 AM
 
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I am not a huge Trump fan. His character is terrible and he's sets a horrible example.
BUT.. Can you REALLY say he was a bad president?
If he was any good, he'd have gotten re-elected. Especially during a national crisis like the Pandemic.

Fact is he was historically bad, all the crazy stats you posted just reflect the roller coaster of the pandemic, he did nothing but divide and bankrupt the country. Plain and simple.
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Old 01-22-2021, 02:31 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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First paragraph is flat out wrong. The US became the top oil producer under the Obama administration and that's also when the price of gas began to bottom out. Gas prices were lower in 2016 than in 2020. Stealing credit for things (which aren't even necessarily good) that happened under Obama and giving it to Trump aren't surprising but is still sad to see.
Whatever growth that happened was IN SPITE of Obama's policies. Look at Obama's war on coal and what it did to West Virginia. I know, I lived there when it was happening.

And now in his first day, Biden cancelled the Keystone XL pipeline destroying thousands of well paying American jobs.

And remember it was the Democrat Bill Clinton that signed NAFTA, signing the death warrant for most of American manufacturing. Liberals believe in the redistribution of wealth on a global level too, where America needs to redistribute our wealth and jobs overseas to level the playing field internationally. Same thing with how the Paris Accord won't force China and India to do anything but threatens to cripple domestic energy production in the U.S. and put people out of work.
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