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Old 01-22-2021, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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There are no Harris fans. She is so unpopular that she dropped out before the first primary vote. The GOP should easily take the White House back in 2024.
Unlikely, Biden will get quite a bit more accomplished in one year than Trump did in four. Republicans don't have a clue who they are and what they want after Trump state he wants to form a new party.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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There’s no way Harris could win. GOP would easily win. Do you guys understand that most people in general do not want a women as president of the US? This goes for whites, minorities, and even radicals. (No, I don’t have a problem with it though)
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:04 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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The man is just too old. There were far better candidates on the left. I don’t know why go with him. There’s a few others that would have beaten trump too
Not a Democrat, but i liked Tulsi Gabbard.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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- Told his staff they would be fired if they didn't tow the line
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Told his staff “ if I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone, I will fire you on the spot”.

Obviously there is a culture within the West Wing, no different than anywhere, that can trend disrespectful when there is disagreement.

People can disagree and do so respectfully. It does not have to become personal.

Only thing any of us control is our own reactions. Obvious a whole lot of people don’t grasp this.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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As a supporter of President Trump who voted for him twice, it wasn't about falling in love with him and it certainly wasn't about liking him personally or liking his character. It was agreeing with his ideas.
They weren't even his ideas. His 'ideas' came directly from Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Roger Stone, Roger Ailes and others.

Some history: Trump was a long-time democrat who switched parties a few times, ultimately landing on 'pub. He learned how to exploit gullible, feed their fears and ramp up their rage (a Bannon core move), and get them to open their wallets. Started with Roger Ailes realizing Trump could get people on-board in a way that Palin never could. Read, learn the history.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:08 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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They have slapped gas tax on gas for years and it's never used for what it's allocated for...PA has the most expensive taxes on gasoline right now....but then again, it's so corrupt.
And the worst roads, believe me I live here.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Enjoy the next four years of this, you Trump people.

Biden will continue to do what's right for the "little guy" American people and our allies. This is what real governing looks like

Unlike Trump, Biden will not do what's best for him and his rich buddies and lie to their supporters about how everything is going to trickle down to them.
I didn't realize that Warren Buffet was "the little guy".

BNSF Railway Co., the freight giant owned by Warren Buffett, is the one who benefits from this.

"This is what real government looks like."

Yeah, to the left, it definitely is.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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They weren't even his ideas. His 'ideas' came directly from Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Roger Stone, Roger Ailes and others.

Some history: Trump was a long-time democrat who switched parties a few times, ultimately landing on 'pub. He learned how to exploit gullible, feed their fears and ramp up their rage (a Bannon core move), and get them to open their wallets. Started with Roger Ailes realizing Trump could get people on-board in a way that Palin never could. Read, learn the history.
As the candidate and then as the president, Trump was the one pushing them into policy, through executive orders. This is why the left went after him even though many people on the left despite Stephen Bannon and consider Stephen Miller a "white supremacist" even though Miller is a Jew.

At the end of the day, during the Trump administration, whenever the media or pundits or bloggers or BLM or Antifa or women wearing gonadic gowns or C-D people who hated Trump criticized him, it was because of the ideas that Trump put forth. That he may have gotten them from others was immaterial, just as it is immaterial that Biden went out and picked a nonwhite female to be his running mate. He personally has made many racist comments, and given his support for previous crime legislation, going soft on deportations isn't something he came up with - it's something he agreed to given the politicians on the left include radicals who want to criminalize the enforcement of immigration laws.

Therefore, Trump supporters were happy someone was saying what they thought privately for years but had been browbeaten into not saying because they didn't want to be called racist. The mere fact that now anybody is accused of racism for anything and most especially as a response to any statement or comment which isn't even racist, but which is met with accusations of racism simply to silence the person doing the speaking, shows how widespread that repression and frustration by many salt-of-the-Earth Americans were. Trump's arrival meant they finally had somebody saying out loud what they wanted to say.

Did they fall in love with him? Perhaps some did. But people forget about how Obama was worshiped and hailed as a messianic figure in 2007-2008, and how many people kept yearning for the Obama days while Trump was in office. They were head over heels for Obama, and it's funny they attacked Trump as immoral given they saw Obama as some kind of moral paragon given Obama launched bombs on every single day of his administration, had a "kill list" which he used to target a U.S. citizen minor for drone death, and deported 3 million illegal aliens (1 million more than George W. Bush) - care to calculate how many families Barack separated?

But because Trump was in office doing the same albeit in lower numbers, Trump was a racist, and his followers were deemed to be unthinking bigots who fell in love with a bigot.

And we who are on the right are accuse of being simple in our thinking...

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Old 01-22-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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As the candidate and then as the president, Trump was the one pushing them into policy, through executive orders. This is why the left went after him even though many people on the left despite Stephen Bannon and consider Stephen Miller a "white supremacist" even though Miller is a Jew.
I know some people in Miller's family. He is a disgrace to them.

Trump was groomed by the people around him. It was absolutely their ideas, he installed some of them in the west wing, and he liked their rhetoric because it fed his desire to be like the dictators he greatly admires.
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Old 01-22-2021, 01:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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The man is just too old. There were far better candidates on the left. I don’t know why go with him. There’s a few others that would have beaten trump too
Buyer's remorse, Dorian?
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