Are you in support of minimum wage for New York City? (illegal aliens, deported)

[mathjak107]

There are plenty of low end workers to fill those slots and if they don’t , wellmarkets will revalue them higher until the supply of workers matches the need

[nightcrawler]

when I was in the co-op program back in 1978, in HS. The program was work a week, the go to school a week. The BOA gets us kids jobs, and I remember the min wage at 1978 was 2.67 an hour. Imagine that, but that's what it was.


I was 15, worked in a mail room, but a job like that was for a kid or a retired person. Of course one can't live on $2.67 an hour, I live at home with my parents. It was 35 hours a week. 9-5 Gross salary was 93.45.


While obviously it is a very low paying job, the work, did have to get done, and students were the perfect people to do it.
Even a retiree for extra cash it would be good.



I am all for the 15.00 in wage increase. It is needed because everything these days are so GD expensive. Of course a man making min wage will not be able to support a family on that.

[jonbenson]

wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illega..._New_York_City

Illegal immigration to New York City
About 70% of them have paid work,

Undocumented workers can be found working in almost every industry in New York City performing a wide variety of tasks. More than half of all dishwashers in the city are undocumented workers, as are a third of all sewing machine operators, painters, cooks, construction laborers, and food preparation workers. Undocumented workers also make up close to 30 percent of the city's automotive service technicians and mechanics, waiters, maids and housekeeping cleaners, and carpenters. The five occupations with the most undocumented workers in New York City are cooks (21,000), janitors and building cleaners (19,000), construction laborers (17,000), maids and housekeeping cleaners (16,000), and waiters (15,000)


Occupation[1] / Number (estimate) / As proportion of all workers in each occupation

Dishwashers 11,000 54%
Sewing machine operators 12,000 35%
Painters, construction & maintenance 7,000 33%
Cooks 21,000 33%
Construction laborers 17,000 32%
Food preparation workers 6,000 32%
Waiters & waitresses 15,000 28%
Maids & housekeeping cleaners 16,000 28%
Automotive service technicians & mechanics 5,000 26%
Carpenters 20,000 50%
Taxi drivers & chauffeurs 11,000 20%
Stock clerks & order fillers 7,000 19%
Janitors & building cleaners 19,000 19%
Laborers & freight, stock & material movers 6,000 16%
Driver/sales workers & truck drivers 9,000 15%
Cashiers 10,000 12%
Retail salespersons 10,000 12%
Child care workers 7,000 12%
Office clerks, general 5,000 12%
First-line supervisors of retail sales workers 8,000 10%
Other occupations 163,000 6%
Total undocumented labor force 374,000 10%

"Although they broke the law by illegally crossing our borders ... our city's economy would be a shell of itself had they not, and it would collapse if they were deported,....The same holds true for the nation."
- Michael Bloomberg

So here are our choices:

a) support illegal immigrants working in restaurants and other jobs $7-14 (current situation)

b) deport illegal immigrants and have no minimum wage

c) deport illegal immigrants and minimum wage $8 NYC

d) deport illegal immigrants, keep minimum wage at $15
and if certain businesses fail, that's the way it will be

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by mathjak107

Then it is what it is ...don’t need money great , but don’t complain either you can’t afford to live

Moving costs (to a lower COL area) are expensive. Improving your skills is expensive. Tough to do, making minimum wage and paying bills at the same time.

[mathjak107]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

Moving costs (to a lower COL area) are expensive. Improving your skills is expensive. Tough to do, making minimum wage and paying bills at the same time.

Those who want to do it will find a way , the rest will find an excuse.

THat is the filter between those who move upward and the rest of the pack who drift like a cork in water from one low end job to the next ...if it was easy everyone would do it

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by mathjak107

Those who want to do it will find a way , the rest will find an excuse

The only way is to work multiple minimum wage jobs and deplete your health in the process

I worked a full-time job the whole time I was in college and I usually took 12 credits, it was not easy, especially when I went to Hunter for a year. I went to school in Manhattan, then work in Brooklyn, then home to Queens

Imagine if I had real bills to pay, I still lived at home.

[sojourn traveller]

I got paid $2.65 when I worked in McDonald's in 1978. $15 sounds pretty good to me.

[mathjak107]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

The only way is to work multiple minimum wage jobs and deplete your health in the process

I worked a full-time job the whole time I was in college and I usually took 12 credits, it was not easy, especially when I went to Hunter for a year, I went to school in Manhattan, then work in Brooklyn, then home to Queens

Imagine if I had real bills to pay, I still lived at home.

Many careers let you learn on your own in your spare time ....many low end workers work for companies that are willing to train if they just ask ....

My one day a week I worked before covid was training picker packers for the purchasing dept and sales so we can create a bench .

I learned much of what I know by contacting the factories we dealt with and getting training material I can read on my own time..

Where there is a desire to learn and grow there are ways to do it

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by sojourn traveller

I got paid $2.65 when I worked in McDonald's in 1978. $15 sounds pretty good to me.

In today's money that's $10.59

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by mathjak107

Many careers let you learn on your own in your spare time ....many low end workers work for companies that are willing to train if they just ask ....

My one day a week I worked before covid was training picker packers for the purchasing dept and sales so we can create a bench .

I learned much of what I know by contacting the factories we dealt with and getting training material I can read on my own time

You had the willingness to learn, some people see a job as just that - a job

It all depends on the person