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Old 01-23-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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This country needs to get into nuclear again. There are safe ways now to store and handle this. Now that is clean energy!
Yes! The nature has given us the cleanest energy but the leftist feel-feel fake tree huggers hate it.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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As far as the debate over renewables vs fossil fuels goes...my portfolio does the speaking

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All with massive gains. Smart money is going towards renewables and out of the fossil fuels and for good reason.

Now tell me, how are your oil and coal companies performing these days? When you read the prospectus of your favorite fossil fuel company, how do they see the next 10-20 years playing out?
If that’s the case, let’s terminate all subsidies to the renewable and let the market decide.

You would never support that idea.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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The electric infrastructure for charging a significant switch from ICE to electric DOES NOT EXIST and what youd have to do to build it will eclipse all worst case projections for climate change in the next 50 years.
Almost no homes in America have electric service adequate for overnight charging, and the existing buried conduits arent designed for additional cables.
Youll have to dig up sidewalks and pavement in every city in the country with underground utilities, with all the heavy equipment use, the mining of the raw materials for the cables, its manufacturing, the repouring of all the concrete, which is especially harmful for global warming.
Shall we now discuss the harm in building distribution, and power plants?

You people never think these things through.
Actually, it would be a lot easier than what you described.

No need to have charging station at home. We can simply swap out the batteries.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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How much more condescending can you be?

Seriously, who are you? You think you have more foresight than the people who invest billions of dollars in a project that lasts decades?

Have some humility please.
No offense, but this viewpoint is shared by nearly everyone born after 1980.

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Yes! The nature has given us the cleanest energy but the leftist feel-feel fake tree huggers hate it.
Why the obsession with nuclear? Yes it’s clean, but nuclear waste storage and the possibility of meltdown (even if the likelihood is minimal with current knowledge and technology) are legitimate concerns. If it’s possible to meet our power needs with clean, renewable sources without the need of nuclear then that is obviously what we should be striving for.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:25 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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All automakers are transitioning their offerings to EVs. America’s transportation fleet mostly runs on petrol for the moment but it will shift to mostly EVs over the next 10-15 years. It only makes sense to plan for the future and invest in clean and renewable power generation and transportation and stop investing in fossil fuels as we wean off them. Those who resist this are living in the past.
If renewable energy is going to replace fossil fuels, then we should let that happen organically over the course of time. Let the market determine the outcome.

Killing the Keystone Pipeline was a knee-jerk action and political stunt that will cost a lot of jobs. It shouldn’t have been done.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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No offense, but this viewpoint is shared by nearly everyone born after 1980.



Why the obsession with nuclear? Yes it’s clean, but nuclear waste storage and the possibility of meltdown (even if the likelihood is minimal with current knowledge and technology) are legitimate concerns. If it’s possible to meet our power needs with clean, renewable sources without the need of nuclear then that is obviously what we should be striving for.
It's not......................
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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It's good for Americans because it will not leak and dump oil into Native American Lands and pollute the groundwater. Native Americans did not want this pipeline to come through their lands.
Exactly. This is what Keystone advocates seem to forget. The plan involves not only significant threat to drinking water sources and fragile ecosystems, but also to land to which First Nations/Indigenous peoples have treat-guaranteed rights in both the US AND Canada.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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How does cancelling the Keystone Pipeline, help Americans?


I've been looking for the answer to that question.

So far, no joy.

It was something Biden did on his very first day in office.

[beuller]

Anybody?

Anybody?

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It doesn't. I live in Nebraska, used to live in North Dakota. Some folks are upset because it goes right through our state, and supposedly it's a risk to the Ogallala aquifer. I don't see it. I can't imagine how it's more of a risk than any other pipeline, or the rail cars that will transport it instead. But then, it doesn't benefit Democrats financially the way the rail system does.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:33 AM
 
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Exactly. This is what Keystone advocates seem to forget. The plan involves not only significant threat to drinking water sources and fragile ecosystems, but also to land to which First Nations/Indigenous peoples have treat-guaranteed rights in both the US AND Canada.
And trains won't?
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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[quote=newdixiegirl;60236154]Exactly. This is what Keystone advocates seem to forget. The plan involves not only significant threat to drinking water sources and fragile ecosystems, but also to land to which First Nations/Indigenous peoples have treat-guaranteed rights in both the US AND Canada.[/QUOTE

Heads up. they will still transport the oil. More dangerously and much more expensively

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tortois...h=1ee19c812dc9

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/arti...rt-oil-and-gas
https://www.riverkeeper.org/campaign...ne-of-failure/

https://braunslaw.com/library/danger...uck-accidents/
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